I've traveled in europe, asia and africa and the americas and the US by far has the best public restroom infrastructure.
I have traveled a lot and I agree completely. As an american I was raised to always expect public facilities but it's very rare.
America is not made for people who pee
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#42People have been talking about an uptick in human feces found on sidewalks and alleyways in San Francisco recently as though the pandemic is causing more people to choose to go on the street or as a signal of increased homelessness. I think what the article is talking about is a much bigger cause. If you're in SF, try finding a bathroom to use even if you do have money to spend somewhere. Everyone has closed their ba…
edit: I lived in SF & Oakland from 2013-2019 and Manhattan from late 2019 - now. The feces problem in SF is exacerbated by opiates. Heavy opiate use causes extreme constipation and opiate withdrawal causes the opposite. Housing and drugs are the top of funnel problems in SF contributing to everything else. New York City seems to not have anywhere near the level of public feces as SOMA / Downtown SF even throughout th…
It's not exactly like for like, but compare these maps of available public restrooms in SF and NYC:
- NYC: http://m3.mappler.net/nyrestroom/
- SF: https://www.google.com/maps/d/u/1/viewer?mid=1xRGER_GLPdRdOA...
No disagreement as to the opiate issues in SF exacerbating the problem, but it seems reasonable to think that anyone (drug problem or not) would prefer to use a bathroom than squat on a sidewalk.
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#43Earlier quoted context omitted.
> you're not a law-abiding citizen if you die resisting arrest Example one. > I can't breath. There are numerous examples happening on a regular basis in the US. They kill US citizens who are not a threat and not resisting all the time.
Covered in a previous comment. Floyd was complaining he couldn't breathe before police even restrained him. The autopsy also showed he had a lethal concentration of fentanyl in his blood. He died of a drug overdose. Also, the bodycam footage clearly shows him resisting arrest. And the fact that police found him in the driver's seat of a vehicle with fentanyl in his system means he was committing a DUI. And despite al…
> And despite all this, the cop was still fired, so it's still not an example of cops escaping punishment.
This is a new argument that you didn't make previously and one I was not refuting. I'm not sure why you stated this.
> He died of a drug overdose.
And this is not true no matter how much you downvote me.
https://content.govdelivery.com/attachments/MNHENNE/2020/06/...
> Cause of death: Cardiopulmonary arrest complicating law enforcement subdual, restraint, and neck compression
> Manner of death: Homicide
Literally the coroners release states that although he had fentanyl in his system, that did not kill him.
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#44Earlier quoted context omitted.
I guarantee you have broken some laws, even if unwittingly. So you are not a law-abiding citizen, ergo cops can kill you with impunity. Still OK with that?
That doesn't happen which is the point. If it did, the cops would get fired. Pretty much the only time cops kill somebody is when they're resisting arrest after committing a serious crime. All of the high profile police-involved deaths from the last year fit this description: George Floyd - resisting arrest after committing a DUI, died of fentanyl overdose not police action (confirmed by autopsy + bodycam footage sho…
Wow you are really ignorant. Two autopsies ruled George Floyd's death as homicide.
Also one can see the video of the killing (Warning!! NSFW/NSFL) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zn2idiz2GEI
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#45Earlier quoted context omitted.
That doesn't happen which is the point. If it did, the cops would get fired. Pretty much the only time cops kill somebody is when they're resisting arrest after committing a serious crime. All of the high profile police-involved deaths from the last year fit this description: George Floyd - resisting arrest after committing a DUI, died of fentanyl overdose not police action (confirmed by autopsy + bodycam footage sho…
What is the ultimate point you're trying to make? It sounds like you're trying to defend the actions of the police in these cases, but it's not clear what you're trying to accomplish by doing so. Your version of these events are extremely charitable to the police, and ignore just how badly each situation was botched by law enforcement. > Breonna Taylor - caught in the crossfire after her drug dealer boyfriend opened…
I think a much better question is, if the police raided your house and it turned out they had a warrant, would you be okay with it?
Not to mention the police will take evidence and never return it. They will never reimburse you for the damages (sometimes this will even include medical bills that the police themselves are responsible for causing). And they will sometimes press fake charges in order to pressure you against going public against the police.
Oh, and if they accidentally kill your dog? You'll be lucky if they even apologize.
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#46So, a cop was fired in Oklahoma for citing a 3-year old with a $2500 fine for public urination. Sounds kinda harsh given that you can't get cops fired even for killing unarmed law-abiding civilians. Wonder what happened there (did he piss off the wrong people?).
Were the child and his parents white by any chance?
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#47Earlier quoted context omitted.
> you're not a law-abiding citizen if you die resisting arrest Example one. > I can't breath. There are numerous examples happening on a regular basis in the US. They kill US citizens who are not a threat and not resisting all the time.
Covered in a previous comment. Floyd was complaining he couldn't breathe before police even restrained him. The autopsy also showed he had a lethal concentration of fentanyl in his blood. He died of a drug overdose. Also, the bodycam footage clearly shows him resisting arrest. And the fact that police found him in the driver's seat of a vehicle with fentanyl in his system means he was committing a DUI. And despite al…
Both autopsies ruled it as homicide. Also you can see for yourself.
NSFW/NSFL
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=agNH50NbQ-w
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#48IMO he nails it on the head with the Buchwald anecdote. America has binned the medieval Roman Catholic notion that we are moral agents, which gave rise to the enlightenment, for the older “church knows best” construct. The church being “free market fiscal economics” manipulated by elites who think they know best. Just like the kings, priests, and barons of old. If someone with wealth hasn’t decided you are “privy leg…
> The church being “free market fiscal economics” manipulated by elites who think they know best
This is so wildly fantastic given the size of modern US government and the size of the national debt. We're passing so-called stimulus/relief packages of unprecedented size, expanding the money supply, etc.
The idea that "free market fiscal economics" weighs on US policy at any level is a complete farce. There's no evidence and it's a certainty that liberals and big-government types hold the most power by far in US government and this has been the case for decades.
Limited government and free market ideology has a caucus of maybe 10 people in Congress. All significant legislation is voted firmly against their favor.
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#49Earlier quoted context omitted.
I guarantee you have broken some laws, even if unwittingly. So you are not a law-abiding citizen, ergo cops can kill you with impunity. Still OK with that?
That doesn't happen which is the point. If it did, the cops would get fired. Pretty much the only time cops kill somebody is when they're resisting arrest after committing a serious crime. All of the high profile police-involved deaths from the last year fit this description: George Floyd - resisting arrest after committing a DUI, died of fentanyl overdose not police action (confirmed by autopsy + bodycam footage sho…
Her boyfriend was a drug dealer?
You’re telling me what the officer did to George Floyd was ok? That’s what it sounds like.
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#50Earlier quoted context omitted.
“ But the United States is simply not made for people who pee.” That’s in the 4th or 5th paragraph. That’s the human anatomy the title is referring to.
Shouldn’t the title of the submission match the title of the article? Anatomically correct suggests something very different.
Yes, it should. The submitted title ('America Is Not Made for Anatomically Correct People') broke the site guidelines: "Please use the original title, unless it is misleading or linkbait; don't editorialize." - https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html
Perhaps the submitter thought the title was linkbait, but I don't see it that way and have reverted it now. Generally we try to avoid euphemisms and Bowdlerisms here. It's better to assume that readers are smart enough to handle things for themselves.