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Bay Area drug kingpins lured low-level dealers, promising cheap rent (2020)

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Re: Bay Area drug kingpins lured low-level dealers, promising cheap rent (2020)

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I remember seeing dealers selling crack in plain sight on 9th and mission every day. Cops would drive by and the dealers wouldn’t even try to hide. It really seemed like there was some sort of arrangement going on there. But what would I know. On a side note, those dealers had pretty long hours, they’d be there from before 7am some times (and people buying too). It was also sad to see that most of their customers see…

My knowledge is a couple years dated here, but afaik SFPD has a policy of not enforcing or investigating nonviolent offenses.

Re: Bay Area drug kingpins lured low-level dealers, promising cheap rent (2020)

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There was a great book called Gang Leader for a Day , about a UChicago sociologist that spends time inside a Southside drug crew. His research showed that the average low-level street dealer made less than minimum wage. Almost all the profit accrued to the guys high up in the supply chain or gang hierarchy.

Drug dealing is a facinating experiment of full-free-market capitalism. The experience certainly inspired me further on the path of entrepreneurship.

I think it's often monopolies enforced by violence and corruption.

Re: Bay Area drug kingpins lured low-level dealers, promising cheap rent (2020)

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Drug dealing is a facinating experiment of full-free-market capitalism. The experience certainly inspired me further on the path of entrepreneurship.

I think it's often monopolies enforced by violence and corruption.

Many people argue that's the inevitable result of fully free market capitalism too.

Re: Bay Area drug kingpins lured low-level dealers, promising cheap rent (2020)

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I remember seeing dealers selling crack in plain sight on 9th and mission every day. Cops would drive by and the dealers wouldn’t even try to hide. It really seemed like there was some sort of arrangement going on there. But what would I know. On a side note, those dealers had pretty long hours, they’d be there from before 7am some times (and people buying too). It was also sad to see that most of their customers see…

Sounds like Hamsterdam from the Wire haha

Got that WMD

Re: Bay Area drug kingpins lured low-level dealers, promising cheap rent (2020)

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Often times it’s not, and there are other social benefits, like being invited to all the parties, etc.. It’s not simply a numbers thing.

Who cares about parties when you can't buy food.

The only drug dealers not making any money are the ones that are born into poverty and have to come up with no money from the street level.

Once you can put together at least a few thousand for a re-up you will make more than minimum wage, and you can double your money in a week or two with cocaine and harder drugs. It's easy to make 2k a week selling just eight balls and grams of cocaine if you know the right people on both ends of the equation.

But of course it's only easy until you get raided or someone else decides to test you! The cops will rob you too in the US. One friend lost two lbs of weed and another got jacked a few times for larger amounts of coke by the police. It's a real calamity and drug legalization is the only solution.

Re: Bay Area drug kingpins lured low-level dealers, promising cheap rent (2020)

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I remember seeing dealers selling crack in plain sight on 9th and mission every day. Cops would drive by and the dealers wouldn’t even try to hide. It really seemed like there was some sort of arrangement going on there. But what would I know. On a side note, those dealers had pretty long hours, they’d be there from before 7am some times (and people buying too). It was also sad to see that most of their customers see…

Yea, the arrangement is to create enough poverty via expensive drug enforcement to lower labor prices for the private sector.

Re: Bay Area drug kingpins lured low-level dealers, promising cheap rent (2020)

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I remember seeing dealers selling crack in plain sight on 9th and mission every day. Cops would drive by and the dealers wouldn’t even try to hide. It really seemed like there was some sort of arrangement going on there. But what would I know. On a side note, those dealers had pretty long hours, they’d be there from before 7am some times (and people buying too). It was also sad to see that most of their customers see…

My knowledge is a couple years dated here, but afaik SFPD has a policy of not enforcing or investigating nonviolent offenses.

Pre-Chesa at least, SFPD brought several cases in that were dealers at Civic Center station and Montgomery. I know that at least some of these cases folks were found guilty.

At that time at least, SFPD targeted dealers.

Re: Bay Area drug kingpins lured low-level dealers, promising cheap rent (2020)

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Who cares about parties when you can't buy food.

The only drug dealers not making any money are the ones that are born into poverty and have to come up with no money from the street level. Once you can put together at least a few thousand for a re-up you will make more than minimum wage, and you can double your money in a week or two with cocaine and harder drugs. It's easy to make 2k a week selling just eight balls and grams of cocaine if you know the right people…

If your making 2k a week selling blow, but still risking robberies or cops that's an issue. That's when its time to move on to having the less than minimum wage low level guys working for you. If you are buying weight and handling re-ups then your already handling back end. Being a full stack drug dealer is not a long term proposition. If your doing 2k a week profit your moving a couple ounces of coke and ideally would have a couple cheap low level guys and a middle man that deals with them. The goal would be to just supply those middle men, but if your selling eight balls that probably is already the case. The real profit in cocaine is at the very low level where a $150 8-ball, gets cut to become 8 $50 grams, which turns into 6, $20 bags, that finally makes 10 $5 pieces of crack. If you control that entire operation and can go straight from the 8 ball to crack pieces your looking at greater than a 20x profit margin. Its going to require labor to cook and piece it out all day though. Because the only way you can sell those $5 pieces is to have a 24/7 presence on the street to serve the crack heads that successfully beg $5.

Re: Bay Area drug kingpins lured low-level dealers, promising cheap rent (2020)

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

I think it's often monopolies enforced by violence and corruption.

Many people argue that's the inevitable result of fully free market capitalism too.

I have to agree with the sentiment. Free markets aren't operated by reasonable people.
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