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Cactus Comments: Federated web comments based on Matrix protocol

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Re: Cactus Comments: Federated web comments based on Matrix protocol

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When I followed the link in Firefox with the MetaMask extension installed and enabled, I was greeted with MetaMask's Ethereum Phishing Detection page: https://i.imgur.com/DSiut95.jpg

looking at the GH issues on that extension, false positives seems to be the name of the game there...

Re: Cactus Comments: Federated web comments based on Matrix protocol

#12
post #6

This is great! Any option to filter spam/hate speech automatically and not on the front-end?

This is an important question, I'm surprised to see it downvoted.

That being said, I would imagine it would be done the same way as an automod type bot for any Matrix room. You'd probably have to implement it yourself though.

Edit: That being said, I don't like the idea of automatic moderation. For small scale blogs, maybe just a manual approval of comments would be worthwhile.

Re: Cactus Comments: Federated web comments based on Matrix protocol

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post #6

This is great! Any option to filter spam/hate speech automatically and not on the front-end?

I personally find "hate speech" nomenclature quite tedious, but dealing with undesired content is handled via the usual Matrix methods[1]... since that is what underlies Cactus. You may have to self host though, i'm not sure if Cactus themselves give access to these features if you rely on them for hosting.

[1] https://matrix.org/docs/guides/moderation

Re: Cactus Comments: Federated web comments based on Matrix protocol

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post #14
post #6

This is great! Any option to filter spam/hate speech automatically and not on the front-end?

I personally find "hate speech" nomenclature quite tedious, but dealing with undesired content is handled via the usual Matrix methods[1]... since that is what underlies Cactus. You may have to self host though, i'm not sure if Cactus themselves give access to these features if you rely on them for hosting. [1] https://matrix.org/docs/guides/moderation

Matrix is currently working on improved moderation and curation methods, right? I saw a blog post published to that effect, in response to the last administration's anti-encryption putsch.

Re: Cactus Comments: Federated web comments based on Matrix protocol

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post #4

This seems like an even better use of a state-synchronization protocol like Matrix than instant messaging, for which I think XMPP is a better fit.

XMPP has been effectively dead for awhile. Time to move on.

And you're basing this on what?

I do concede that XMPP is not the new shiny, but it is very far from dead.

It powers more things than you realise, a few are listed at https://xmpp.org/uses/

There is healthy growth in server count: https://blog.prosody.im/2020-retrospective/

Development is very active, across a diverse range of projects: https://xmpp.org/category/newsletter.html

Re: Cactus Comments: Federated web comments based on Matrix protocol

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post #14
post #6

This is great! Any option to filter spam/hate speech automatically and not on the front-end?

I personally find "hate speech" nomenclature quite tedious, but dealing with undesired content is handled via the usual Matrix methods[1]... since that is what underlies Cactus. You may have to self host though, i'm not sure if Cactus themselves give access to these features if you rely on them for hosting. [1] https://matrix.org/docs/guides/moderation

> I personally find "hate speech" nomenclature quite tedious

I first encountered 'hate speech' as a wide eyed teenager in the 1990s on a gaming IRC room that I hung out in. Somehow my ethnic background came out, and it was bizarre: the entire room either turned against me with racist hate speech, adding that they knew where I lived based on my ip (didn't think this was possible, but then didn't know anyone to ask if it was) and would come beat me up or worse. Or they just went silent and wouldn't stand up for me. I asked the moderators to help and I don't think they ever replied; certainly they never did anything. It was terrifying, and it made me clock out of IRC and online gaming communities for good.

So I wonder, to those who downvote someone asking about moderating (posts on your own blog!) or just consider hate speech as a term to be 'tedius' : have you ever experienced it yourself?

Re: Cactus Comments: Federated web comments based on Matrix protocol

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post #14
post #6

This is great! Any option to filter spam/hate speech automatically and not on the front-end?

I personally find "hate speech" nomenclature quite tedious, but dealing with undesired content is handled via the usual Matrix methods[1]... since that is what underlies Cactus. You may have to self host though, i'm not sure if Cactus themselves give access to these features if you rely on them for hosting. [1] https://matrix.org/docs/guides/moderation

Why tedious? It's a short, accurate, semantically unambiguous description of a non-partisan concept; speech expressing hate. It's the global minimum in tediousness for expressing that and much narrower and more objective than "undesired content".
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