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Californians aren’t leaving the state en masse but are leaving San Francisco

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Re: Californians aren’t leaving the state en masse but are leaving San Francisco

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Allowing new housing to be built to satisfy demand.

SF is surrounded by water on 3 sides. Where do you propose all these new houses be built?

> SF is surrounded by water on 3 sides. Where do you propose all these new houses be built?

Up seems to be the obvious answer.

Re: Californians aren’t leaving the state en masse but are leaving San Francisco

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> the city is so mismanaged it's a joke > I genuinely have no clue where the high taxes go. > tech bros step over needles and homeless people on their way to make their 200k a year. > Why didn't they build more houses here? I don't think you've learned about Prop 13 yet. Ignorance is bliss here. Yes there are answers to your questions, but California is more enjoyable when you're just confused about these things.

This the one? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2020_California_Proposition_13

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Re: Californians aren’t leaving the state en masse but are leaving San Francisco

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I interviewed at a company based out of SF last week. The HR person had this long comment about diversity and how that is important at their company and asked what I've done in my career to support diversity. I told him a story about how a company I was at had decided to outsource some of the QA work to India and when the first employee in India came to the US to onboard I was very welcoming and did everything I coul…

How big is this company

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Re: Californians aren’t leaving the state en masse but are leaving San Francisco

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The way San Francisco is managed finally made sense to me (in a bad way) once I learned about the Second Great Migration and the fact that there was basically no black population here until World War 2. Making the cost of living as expensive as possible is a wonderfully deniable way to drive out people who have been repeatedly denied the ability to build generational wealth: https://www.forbes.com/sites/priceonomics/…

I've thought this for a while: NIMBYism and other anti-development policies is how liberals implement "red lining" with plausible deniability... even to themselves. They're not trying to exclude the poor and minorities. They're trying to protect the environment! Never mind that these policies encourage sprawl and waste.

It's more than that- dodd frank made financing for building spec houses/housing next to impossible unless participating in a hud or similar program. These policies result in the exact opposite of what you would want to build class mobility/ American Dream/ generational wealth: more rentals (without lowering rental costs, since govt guarantees a min return), less home ownership, and a higher barrier to invest in the housing market.

Re: Californians aren’t leaving the state en masse but are leaving San Francisco

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SF is surrounded by water on 3 sides. Where do you propose all these new houses be built?

Maybe one of SF’s tech companies can invent a technology that would allow housing to be stacked vertically.

Cmon - they are just too busy trying to steal more of my data

Re: Californians aren’t leaving the state en masse but are leaving San Francisco

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I may as well represent a different perspective here. I am not leaving San Francisco. It's beautiful here. I'm excited to see it get weirder. I will always choose to live somewhere that is exciting over somewhere that will be the same forever. Everything about San Francisco has always been "temporary." This city is boom/bust, constantly changing. It's interesting, having a front-row seat to the ways that people and c…

Come on dude. People aren't talking about the "weird" or quirky aspects of SF. We're talking about fucking needles, and human feces in the street. Stop protecting this shit by labeling it as something other than human suffering and a public health disaster.

> People aren't talking about the "weird" or quirky aspects of SF

Someone has to stand up for these aspects of the city, and I guess today it's my turn.

Re: Californians aren’t leaving the state en masse but are leaving San Francisco

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I may as well represent a different perspective here. I am not leaving San Francisco. It's beautiful here. I'm excited to see it get weirder. I will always choose to live somewhere that is exciting over somewhere that will be the same forever. Everything about San Francisco has always been "temporary." This city is boom/bust, constantly changing. It's interesting, having a front-row seat to the ways that people and c…

Come on dude. People aren't talking about the "weird" or quirky aspects of SF. We're talking about fucking needles, and human feces in the street. Stop protecting this shit by labeling it as something other than human suffering and a public health disaster.

My friend lived in SF for 3 years, then left for a year. He called me to say, “dude what happened to SF? Apparently it’s all shit and needles now.” I had to explain to him that nothing has changed. He was just reading sensationalized media.

I live in SF, I would like the city cleaned up, more accountability for taxes, more focus on tax payers over homeless. But at the same time, SF represents liberalism in the US so is a target for conservative media and the problems are massively overblown. People act like the Tenderloin is the whole city, or tech people who never left soma. The city is incredibly beautiful overall.

The top comment at time of writing is complaining about taxes AND how terrible it is to see homeless and we are evil. It’s a hot take totally free of substance, short of kicking people out of the city there are no easy solutions that involve lower taxes and helping all the homeless. These people want to sound compassionate but mostly sound like they want suffering out of their eyesight.

Downtown SF has emptied out because we’re still in the middle of a pandemic. I don’t know if it will last but it’s so dumb to act like people left for any other reason than a pandemic making city living awful. There’s a good chance it will bounce back.

Most of SFs biggest problems like affordability are caused by too many people wanting to live there. These are problems other cities are jealous of. The mayor of Miami literally bought a billboard right now begging people to go to his city. And that jealousy combined with hatred of democrats means people will massively exaggerate problems.

Again, I highly recommend visiting any other neighborhood besides soma or the tenderloin.

Re: Californians aren’t leaving the state en masse but are leaving San Francisco

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Allowing new housing to be built to satisfy demand.

SF is surrounded by water on 3 sides. Where do you propose all these new houses be built?

> Where do you propose all these new houses be built?

That's your problem right there, when you write "houses". Cities need apartment buildings, which allow more homes per same area than single family houses.

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I'm leaving San Francisco next month also. I just see no reason to continue living here. The weather is nice in California, but the city is so mismanaged it's a joke. The homelessness has been an issue for decades now and local politicians always talk about it, but what do they actually do to help? I genuinely have no clue where the high taxes go. I just find it so ironic that San Francisco is a bastion of liberalism…

SF trolled tech and let them have the Tenderloin. It took all those bright folks a decade to figure it out.

Don't understand this comment? Did SF encourage tech companies to locate in the Tenderloin?
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