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Re: Ask HN: What tangible benefits did you get from spending time on HN?

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

> If anyone knows what gme call option prices were like on jan 20th I’d be very interested to know Look here: https://omnieq.com/underlyings/NYSE/GME/chain

Are those american or european? Doesn’t have high out of the money but if I’m reading it right the potential returns for buying Jan 20th were insane. A $60 call potion expiring Jan 29th was $1.20. GME went to $500 or so. If you exercised such an option at, say, $350, your profit on the exercise would have been $290. At a cost of $1.20. 242x return. And thank you, that site is incredible. Very hard to find such data.…

You're most welcome -- glad I had the link.

> Very hard to find such data.

That is the understatement of the decade.

Re: Ask HN: What tangible benefits did you get from spending time on HN?

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Hacker News is like a slot machine with positive expected value. Most days are interesting or sometimes a waste of time. Occasionally you see something like altering. I’ve gotten one big business idea that changed how I ran things and made me a lot of money. Like I mean permanently life altering my business worked instead of didn’t amount of money. But most days are not like that. You also get some information early.…

> That is a highly filtered signal and equivalent to inside information. As a person who gets paid convert knowledge into product, HN is an easy place to check a once or twice/day to keep up to date on decently filtered knowledge/information. I have other sources I follow, but as you said, if it hits HN it's probably important enough that I should know it exist. And yes, this is a vague answer because that base level…

What sources do you follow other than HN?

Re: Ask HN: What tangible benefits did you get from spending time on HN?

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Yes, it's a waste of time, I would leave and not return. I haven't made any money or started any companies or met any wives on this site, it's a total joke.

> or met any wives on this site The wife has negative ROI anyway. If she isn't getting me more money, a new job or another wife, there is no tangible benefit. Also feelings, life satisfaction, love as benefits etc. don't count in this context.

what about the tangible benefit of having well-raised kids?

Re: Ask HN: What tangible benefits did you get from spending time on HN?

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> 2) I was hired because of my post on HN.

Well, not really, BUT, I go some thousand of views on my blog, and I never reached the front page. While it's not really money, it's marketing...

But I would say you could get hired, I posted in a specific reddit community last year I got an interview opportunity due to my post.

But I'm mostly here to get some new information and read some different perspectives of stuff in general, not only IT related.

And about IT stuff, I've found books and information that I probably would never by other means, which, by itself, could help me do better at work, interviews and so on.

I check the front-page almost daily at my lunch break.

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EDIT: I just remembered that someone also approached me due to sharing a post here, that they were hiring.

I didn't move forward because I just started a new job, so yeah, you can get hired.

Re: Ask HN: What tangible benefits did you get from spending time on HN?

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For a start I use https://hckrnews.com set to Top 20%.

This opens to Hews for Hacker News.

https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.leavjenn.h...

I'm really here for the comments. I like how people think here.

They are presented with a story, they analyse it, offer considerable effort and insight.

That effort comes in the form of reading large amounts, on subjects often beyond my comprehension, and distilling it down to something I can understand.

Best of all, an opposing but equally compelling point of view is close by.

Often the author/developer turns up. They can answer questions and provide additional context.

I send the Link and text excerpts to myself by email and just search ycombinator to get a neat reading list of the most interesting stuff. Every month or so I will go back and read it or pickup a project that's caught my attention.

Bitwarden, Tailscale, Shellfish for iPad all came to my attention here and have served me well.

Here is an example post;

>Hackers hijack and publish metal health data of hundreds of people

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=24886039

SebaSeba:

Some current background info: The breach and the extortion emails are at the moment on the front page of all major Finnish news publications. The Finnish government main ministers are discussing on how to handle the potential crisis, since there are possibly 40 000 patients' records leaked and some of the victims are already in a very vulnerable state and might be feeling even more desperate if their traumas will be publicly shared online. It is also known that there are minors among the victims.

https://yle.fi/uutiset/osasto/news/psychotherapy_centre_reve...

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Currently I hold an ENG1Medical certificate which is required by my job. And this has been fine to renew every two years with my Doctor for more than a decade.

Now my employer has contracted the services of an external Occupational Health provider. They have presented an extensive questionnaire. Along with this they suggest an abnormally long data retention timeline with no reference to actually data legislation.

After reading the comment by SebaSeba about what is going on in the wild there is no way I would participate in such obvious folly.

The next comment;

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=24887031

ChrisMarshallNY:

This is a classic "Damoclean sword" conundrum.

The ability to digitize and aggregate the data, and maybe even subject it to some kinds of AI, might result in massive improvement in therapy.

Mental health treatment has come an incredibly long way, just in the last couple of decades. It's even more amazing, when you look at how it went a hundred years ago. Some of the reasons are because of the ability to study treatment methodologies and outcomes.

But having the data in a place that can happen, is very, very risky.

...

Cool, so I have to sides of an argument. On one side using this data might help people. At the same time, keeping this data has been demonstrated to hurt people.

If I filled in the survey it would be composed of "NO"and "Zero" type answers. No medical conditions or meaningful medical history and Zero alcohol.

There is nothing beyond my basic ENG1 Medical certificate needed here. So the decision is simple, I won't be filling the questionnaire out.

The other point about how people think is also present.

"having the data... is very, very risky."

And this idea, which is validated by the very cast of people who deal in the largest datasets in human history, can be applied to everything I do in life.

What's it for? What are the risks?

Of course I get labelled as difficult within my company in the short term, even predictable, but if I've listened to a debate on the subject I feel confident to weather the storm of an aggressive boss demanding I fill in the survey or face vauge punitive action.

Re: Ask HN: What tangible benefits did you get from spending time on HN?

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I posted a comment once bemoaning the high costs of one of my SO's medications. The chemical compound in question is used by horse veterinarians as a supplement for their joints; think something like how Vitamin-D is put into milk. Due to medical/legal issues, the only source for this compound in the US is via a MD or a VD (or so we thought). The cost is ~$2/pill, taken thrice daily. Depending on the insurance plan,…

Can you point us to the post that pointed you towards how to search for bulk manufactured chemicals?

^This. I would love to know this as well.

Re: Ask HN: What tangible benefits did you get from spending time on HN?

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Yes, it's a waste of time, I would leave and not return. I haven't made any money or started any companies or met any wives on this site, it's a total joke.

I’m genuinely surprised (and a little disappointed) that this thread doesn’t have a single love story sparked on HN. I did once receive a bunch of shirtless bathroom selfies from a gentleman here when I included my twitter handle in a comment. Unfortunately, I blocked him before he had the chance to propose so I guess I’m doomed to forever wonder what could have been...

I think that's another reason I like HN. There is no direct messaging like other social media, so if someone wants to interact with you they need to reply publicly.

It's a small thing, but I think it is an important part of HN.

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Not tangible I guess, but HN gave me rest from Reddit's stupidity and incivility. I do want some social web-hangout, and migrated from one place to another—and while Reddit is (or was) better than what we have in my country, it's overrun by teens and tends to bring out the worst in them. HN has its share of dumb crowdthink, but the contrast with Reddit is illuminating, so that now I notice when I begin to act or thin…

There are some good subreddits out there. r/experienceddevs springs to mind

I enjoy Reddit, but it's just not designed for smaller communities in my opinion.

The tricky thing with reddit is that it's algorithm tuned for a daily churn. A small sub, like the one you mentioned, may only have a couple good posts a week, but you will miss them if you don't check every day.

If you only browse the frontpage of your subscribed subreddits, adding any popular subreddits tend to drown out the smaller ones.

Re: Ask HN: What tangible benefits did you get from spending time on HN?

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HN changed my life. Seriously. I started using this site fairly young, and it shaped my view of the world and who I am as a person more than almost anything.

Because of HN comments, I fixed some serious health issues (search your symptoms on HN, write down all the wacky advice, and do everything that's safe!), I tried MDMA (which is magical), I made tons of money, I kept my mind sharp, I traveled to interesting places, I found other groups that led to lifelong friendships...

HN also recommended me every single one of my favorite books (mostly old fiction), a good portion of my wardrobe (Darn Tough socks, various denim etc), my laptops, my audio setup, and my financial setup. Heck, even my underwear was a recommendation from HN - if you haven't, try merino wool underwear, it feels like your ass is being caressed by God.

You specifically mentioned romance and sex, so I'll touch on that aspect. The most valuable advice HN gave me on this subject was that attractiveness is not set in stone. Take the most attractive actors and take away their personal grooming, their fashionable well-fitting clothes, their physical condition, their clean skin, their diet, confidence, career, money and relationships and you'll have someone that would fail to catch your eye at McDonalds. (Seriously - look up the ones who went off the rails.) All of the above are things that anyone can improve. Fix a number of those things, find attractive women and talk to them like they're human and not a sex object - and I can guarantee you sexual and romantic success. I was an unattractive nerd who was laughed down by girls and even fixing a minority of the items on the list above was enough that (pre-Covid) I never had a problem finding beautiful, intelligent, interesting women for serious relationships, casual dating or sex. Everyone I know who's done the same has had similar results. You won't meet a partner on HN (or Reddit, or Facebook, or anywhere) - despite their colossal userbases, there are only a few stories of people who met their partner on those sites. The best dating site was pre-2017 OKCupid, but that is dead and gone now. Real life is your best shot - otherwise try Tinder, or modern OKCupid.

Another reason this place is beautiful is because of the small community feel, despite being a relatively large website. Many people know each other IRL, many get to know the names they butt heads with, and when one of the many famous users drops in there's often an intelligent and interesting discussion. For that reason I'm very hesitant to see it grow. In that regard, I'm thankful for the 90s design, large amount of boring programming things (I can code, but many of the programming posts are drier than hell), and even to a degree the new-user-unfriendly atmosphere - they all slow growth. Serious growth would be fatal to a place like this.

HN isn't great for everything, though. Music is one huge blind spot. Another thing is that the HN discussion style doesn't carry on over into the real world. HN will love your massive, detailed comment and it will ask for more, but in the real world even people who love and care about you have a finite, human attention span. On HN, if you keep your argument short and simple people will poke holes in it, but in the real world nobody expects your arguments to be watertight and bulletproof (and you better not expect that of others' arguments!)

Spend too much time in HN, and it rubs off on you: the skeptical attitude, the long-windedness, the cultural and political views and most importantly the feeling of superiority. Even stupid people aren't stupid - they'll sense your feelings of superiority eventually. It's easy to fall into this because HN values the optimal, and it values comments correcting someone's non-optimal ways. For example, with retirement accounts, even a relatively minor mistake (an account or ETF with high fees, wrong type of contributions, etc etc) can compound into missed tens of thousands of dollars. Logic would dictate that you should tell as many people about this as possible! Practical experience, however, tells me that no matter how you explain things, _most_ people will just feel bad about themselves for their mistake (even if they don't show it) and oftentimes won't even correct it. If you really can't help yourself, you can casually mention the topic as gently and briefly as possible - "oh cool, I did xyz for a while too, then I heard that abc might be better, you should look it up sometime." Alternatively, don't make it into a comparison - just (briefly!) mention your positive experience and let that stand alone.

If you understand that last paragraph, you will finally understand why so many people truly hate vegans, or nerds, or the modern left... or HN users. People like people that are like them, and if you feel like you're not like them, you won't be liked. If you try to convert them to your ideology, or insist it's the only option, you will be hated. You can narrow down your life goals, your identity and your politics to a tiny segment of the population, or you can look to our common aspects and realize that we're all human, just trying to live our short lives on this tiny blue dot of a planet.

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