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Chinese hacking spree hit an ‘astronomical’ number of victims

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Somewhat recently a head of Microsoft was asked about forgoing access to the Chinese market if it meant protecting American interests in the face of new threats. He unequivocally said, yes. He was willing to forgo their market.

I'm not sure Apple and others who either sell product there or have large manufacturing there are as willing to forgo the 'promise market', but it looks more and more we will have to. More or less the next Russia in terms of sanctions.

We'll see how Biden handles this. I'm sure it's a tough call.

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Somewhat recently a head of Microsoft was asked about forgoing access to the Chinese market if it meant protecting American interests in the face of new threats. He unequivocally said, yes. He was willing to forgo their market. I'm not sure Apple and others who either sell product there or have large manufacturing there are as willing to forgo the 'promise market', but it looks more and more we will have to. More or…

The us let’s Chinese firms generally speaking full access to the us market.

The CCP doesn’t allow the us companies the same.

Why our government let that happen. Letting so much business leave to the CCP will be one of the greatest failings of the us government.

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We need two things, I don’t think either will happen: 1) sanctions against China 2) a Greater Firewall outside China, right on all fiber cables, blocking/filtering all traffic from China. China is a hostile nation and we need to treat it as such.

Yeah that sounds like a great idea. Ensure even more that no one inside of China will have access to information about human rights. And then the Chinese government can get to use propaganda against their own citizens even more effectively. There’s no way that could backfire. And there are no ethical problems with what you are suggesting either!

Re: Chinese hacking spree hit an ‘astronomical’ number of victims

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Where is the proof that this was a Chinese hacking group? I certainly don't trust Microsoft to provide it. In fact, it's very concerning that Microsoft seems to be in some quasi-governmental role in this. It's literally a giant security hole in their software, why should we trust what they say?

The White House acting as a PR unit for MS (or is it vice versa?) is a serious problem.

Re: Chinese hacking spree hit an ‘astronomical’ number of victims

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Somewhat recently a head of Microsoft was asked about forgoing access to the Chinese market if it meant protecting American interests in the face of new threats. He unequivocally said, yes. He was willing to forgo their market. I'm not sure Apple and others who either sell product there or have large manufacturing there are as willing to forgo the 'promise market', but it looks more and more we will have to. More or…

> He unequivocally said, yes. He was willing to forgo their market.

US is a corporate republic. The republic that founders dreamed of has waned and frailed from generations of corporate sellout political, legal, media, and business conglomerate establishments. Shareholders will come first and will continue to do so. With 33 trillion dollars debt there is not really any other option left now other than to continue to sail the sinking ship the same way.

> We'll see how Biden handles this. I'm sure it's a tough call.

He won't. He is just the face of the same old thinking that brought us here. Just like all of his predecessors in last 40 years.

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Somewhat recently a head of Microsoft was asked about forgoing access to the Chinese market if it meant protecting American interests in the face of new threats. He unequivocally said, yes. He was willing to forgo their market. I'm not sure Apple and others who either sell product there or have large manufacturing there are as willing to forgo the 'promise market', but it looks more and more we will have to. More or…

The us let’s Chinese firms generally speaking full access to the us market. The CCP doesn’t allow the us companies the same. Why our government let that happen. Letting so much business leave to the CCP will be one of the greatest failings of the us government.

Because we're arrogant. We thought that if we go down the road we went down, they'd naturally settle into their proper place as manufactory for the West without wanting a seat at the table.

Now they're a global power and, gasp, they act like one. Nobody could have seen this coming.

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