Live data from Hacker News

Reflections on IDEA vs VS Code

archive.vn

161–170 of 413 posts

Re: Reflections on IDEA vs VS Code

#161
Why are desktop Java apps are always so slow? Applications written in other languages (C#, C++, etc.) are much much faster. Even VS Code, written in JavaScript is faster... I tried hundreds of applications and this was always the case and not just with certain applications.

Re: Reflections on IDEA vs VS Code

#162
At the end of the day JetBrains doesn't own a whole cloud office suite that can finance and price dump their competition in the IDE market. They can fight against Microsoft, but US corporate consolidation will make sure that their competitor can just give out "good enough" product for free and destroy their revenue source.

They'll either go out of business or get bought out by another corporate conglomerate and their products released for free.

Re: Reflections on IDEA vs VS Code

#163

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I wonder if you have had the chance to use a Jetbrains IDE with a professional license. Doing so gives you access to more or less the content of all the other "flavors" as plugins (it's basically all IntelliJ underneath). For example, I've been using PyCharm for both our python backend _and_ our React + Typescript frontend, all in the same project window, with the same features regarding syntax, linting, refactoring,…

I have. IntelliJ ultimate edition still has fewer features for PHP specifically than Phpstorm. Presumably not because it actually has fewer features, but because "the debugger" now has 150 options instead of like 5. Also, these super-featured IDEs still won't support languages that Jetbrains doesn't have a specific IDE for. For instance, Delphi. Sure they'll support syntax highlighting somehow, and there might be one…

Generally, they should come in the next version. Or that was their stance for PyCharm/IntelliJ ultimate.

Re: Reflections on IDEA vs VS Code

#164
post #146

Speaking as a corporate programmer working from home indefinitely, I'd kill for IDEA Viewer. My laptop can't have code on it, so I'm forced to remote desktop to my workstation to use IntelliJ and CLion remotely, which is a middling experience at best. A light protocol for synchronizing the frontend with the IDE backend would be excellent. You can look at my profile and various papers we've published about why code on…

> remote desktop to my workstation to use IntelliJ and CLion remotely, which is a middling experience at best. i had to do this for a while. Genuinely awful experience over the citrix thing and best possible connection situation. > As an aside, I also use IntelliJ on my own projects for Rust. The Rust LSP is getting there, but nothing beats IntelliJ Rust yet, Thanks for saying this. I'm trying to pivot to using rust…

rust-analyzer works very well for me, definitely don't use RLS.

Re: Reflections on IDEA vs VS Code

#165

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Don't know about datagrip, I was speaking for Idea and webstorm anyway they are mostly the same codebase. You can increase the available ram to intellij in the settings (under the help section if I remember correctly) My old thinkpad was really slow with Idea because my RAM would easily overflow and therefore spam swap usage. The secret sauce is to go for 16GB of ram, any developer deserve it. Also if you feel advent…

I already happen to run an EAP and Linux without mitigations (they're less bad on AMD CPUs anyway). I guess I'll try increasing the heap, but I hope it doesn't need 16 GB for itself.

I have allocated 4GB for the idea maximum heap size for reference

Re: Reflections on IDEA vs VS Code

#166
post #146

Speaking as a corporate programmer working from home indefinitely, I'd kill for IDEA Viewer. My laptop can't have code on it, so I'm forced to remote desktop to my workstation to use IntelliJ and CLion remotely, which is a middling experience at best. A light protocol for synchronizing the frontend with the IDE backend would be excellent. You can look at my profile and various papers we've published about why code on…

[deleted]

Re: Reflections on IDEA vs VS Code

#167
post #139

I am new to Rust, and started first with VSCode, and I never managed to make plugin work properly. Again, an experienced user will be able to fix the problem, but I am not. what about Intellij with Rust plugin? Install plugin, start coding. Done. And I can't imagine doing Java in anything else than Intellij (have tried Eclipse at some point)

The rust plugin is a common pitfall, install the rust-analyzer plugin and you shouldn't run into any problems in vscode.

Re: Reflections on IDEA vs VS Code

#168
post #3

I don’t really see IntelliJ and VSCode as competitors. VSCode competes with atom and other full-featured text editors (vim, emacs) ... its got great adoption amongst the newer generation of programmers that think those editors are old school and user hostile. VSCodes Java, Python, and Golang support is miles behind IntelliJ. FWIW, on my team at Microsoft where we write a lot of Go, theres a 50/50 split between Intell…

Interestingly, as an emacs user, I am really rooting for the success of VSCode. The existence of the Language Server Protocol means that I have a horse in this race. Emacs users that use the same language server as VSCode users directly benefit from this relationship. So even though VSCode is competing with Emacs for market share, it is very much collaborating with Emacs (and other text editors that use LSP) in making language features comprehensive for everybody.

Re: Reflections on IDEA vs VS Code

#169
post #95

I've been programming with various IDEs and text editors for over 30 years. In my formative programming years (1990s) I relied heavily on Borland and Microsoft IDEs. In the 2000s it was a combination of Visual Studio (C/C++/C#) and various editors (PHP, HTML/CSS/JS). In the 2010s I started working across multiple languages: C#, Java, Python, Ruby, Elixir, Scala, JavaScript (also dabbled with Lisp, Go, and Rust); usin…

The only reason I use VS Code is when I want to quickly check a file or create a PoC. PyCharm or CLion are just too slow and frustrating, but for bigger projects there is no better option than those, despite being awfully slow.

Re: Reflections on IDEA vs VS Code

#170

I hate to work with JetBrain tools. Whatever machine I am using them on, they feel sluggish and bloated. Starting an editor takes ages and often it is unresponsive or you can feel the delay between character appearing on the screen and your key press. Absolutely dreadful. That being said I still use them, because nothing can quite compare despite these awful flaws. I also use VS Code but only because there is almost…

[deleted]
Post reply on HN