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Re: Apple copies rejected app

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I think it's more fair to say that making things that should/could be OS features isn't a safe way to make a living. Or if you do want to risk it, just be aware that you should have a fallback plan.

Absolutely! I develop Mac window management apps and every time a new OS is released I half expect Apple to come and wipe out my product line.

You might have lucked out, since it seems like they're going for the "full screen or nothing" approach :)

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I tried this app in the past. It was very....slow.

Which is why I think Apple rejected it. Their syncing protocol, even over USB, was painfully slow. Over wifi it was dreadful. Apple has a, "do it right or don't do it at all", philosophy.

They seemed to have fixed USB syncing in 4.3 because it takes me less time than before. I'm fairly confident that if he submitted his app after 4.3 was released it probably would have passed, but now that iOS 5 is on the horizon and contains the same functionality it has made his app irrelevant.

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I think that's the main point is that he created an app that was probably declined because it used private APIs (or required root access?). Also: he produced the first public implementation of what? A wireless syncing software? iSync on OSX came a while before that and I'm sure there have been quite a few before that.

Mhm, so I don't understand why he expected anything different or why people are so outraged it was rejected — that's one of the major benefits of the App Store: sandboxing and access restrictions of apps. Yeah, as far as I know it was the first publicly-released wireless syncing software designed to let you sync iTunes and iOS.

I would guess that 99% of the outrage stems from the similarity of the icons.

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So to get this straight: the guy who took Apple's icon for syncing and added a wifi symbol thinks Apple ripped him off taking their icon for syncing and adding a wifi symbol? Who'd a thunk.

Not to mention that they apparently tried to hire him.

Not to mention that they apparently thought of hiring him.

It isn't obvious of whether they actually made an offer, but I think not.

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This seems silly to me. Apple knows its own product roadmap, so why wouldnt they reject an app that implements a half-baked version of a product line they're releasing themselves?

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I wish I was surprised, but this seems to happen with a lot of OS-extending apps on the iOS device. I've never heard of a game being banned from the app store, but as soon as it's something that Apple doesn't already have baked into the operating system... It's been said before and it'll be said again: Playing in Apple's walled garden isn't a safe way to make a living.

In many cases I think it boils down to "we reject your app because not only we have thought about this use case already but we have a solution in the works, and while it's not ready yet it will probably blow anything else you would have thought about because we know the system in and out, so your app would be dead a few months from now anyway. As you're doing an impressive work on it maybe you can join us to contribute on that work we're doing right now, or be patient about it and concentrate on other areas." In other cases it's probably overzealous employees.

I noticed Apple hate was growing in line with their price history [1] and I understand there will always be baseless haters, but it appeared to really blow out of proportion during last week.

[1] http://www.wolframalpha.com/input/?i=NASDAQ%3AAAPL+history+l...

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Mhm, so I don't understand why he expected anything different or why people are so outraged it was rejected — that's one of the major benefits of the App Store: sandboxing and access restrictions of apps. Yeah, as far as I know it was the first publicly-released wireless syncing software designed to let you sync iTunes and iOS.

I would guess that 99% of the outrage stems from the similarity of the icons.

I dunno, the headline is "Apple copies rejected app" not "Apple copies rejected app icon". Seems to me that people either don't know how the App Store and its requirements work, or they're just want to be outraged at Apple. Edit: It seems to me that even people commenting here in HN don't realise that the App Store guidelines don't allow for an app to take this kind of access.

The icons are similar (despite how shitty an icon it is), but it won't actually be used anywhere other than apple.com/iOS5 as far as I know; for example it's not even in the Settings app on iOS 5. Plus people are forgetting that this icon is just what Apple have used for years as their WiFi/AirPort. If anything, the developer copied — or at the very least, took a lot of inspiration from — Apple's icons for his app's icon.

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I tried this app in the past. It was very....slow. Which is why I think Apple rejected it. Their syncing protocol, even over USB, was painfully slow. Over wifi it was dreadful. Apple has a, "do it right or don't do it at all", philosophy. They seemed to have fixed USB syncing in 4.3 because it takes me less time than before. I'm fairly confident that if he submitted his app after 4.3 was released it probably would ha…

I think it's far more likely it was rejected because it uses private APIs and takes lower-level access than App Store guidelines allow.

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Mhm, so I don't understand why he expected anything different or why people are so outraged it was rejected — that's one of the major benefits of the App Store: sandboxing and access restrictions of apps. Yeah, as far as I know it was the first publicly-released wireless syncing software designed to let you sync iTunes and iOS.

I would guess that 99% of the outrage stems from the similarity of the icons.

Only problem is, that's about as generic an icon as you could get by mixing Apple's default iOS icon style with a standard WiFi and Sync icon. Not that unique...
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