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'Hovering ship' photographed off Cornish coast by walker

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Re: 'Hovering ship' photographed off Cornish coast by walker

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Post by kortilla »

hntrader wrote: post #232
hu3 wrote: post #156

Earlier quoted context omitted.

From your link I found this picture of 3 flying ships. https://i0.wp.com/www.astropt.org/blog/wp-content/uploads/20... I can feel my brain contorting a bit.

But again with these 3 ships why is it only the ships themselves being precisely cropped out and not even small remnants of the immediately surrounding water?

They aren’t cropped. They are sitting in fog. The fog is the same color as the sky and there is no backdrop to see through the fog other than the ships. In other words, anything in the fog would be “floating”.

Re: 'Hovering ship' photographed off Cornish coast by walker

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Post by Naracion »

globular-toast wrote: post #128
cs702 wrote: post #35

I've seen this optical illusion in person, with large container ships, off the US Mid-Atlantic coast, and it's really cool. The photo in this article is fantastic. It shows an extreme example of the illusion. The ship appears to be, not just hovering over the water, but actually suspended in mid-air. In my view, it's worth clicking on the link just to see the photo.

Something just occurred to me. Is this actually an optical illusion? My idea of an optical illusion is one where your brain perceives something that is different from reality. Indeed, when I look it up I see examples of that (e.g. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Optical_illusion ) But in this case your brain isn't doing anything wrong, the light reaching your eyes is what's "wrong" and your brain is correctly interpret…

For what it's worth, the meteorologist specifically called it a mirage, not an optical illusion. Specifically, this is a "superior" mirage, meaning that the object appears to be above its actual location.

A mirage is not an optical illusion in the way that you describe it. The BBC correspondent is the person that called it an optical illusion, not the meteorologist. :)

Re: 'Hovering ship' photographed off Cornish coast by walker

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Post by M2Ys4U »

iso1631 wrote: post #179
M2Ys4U wrote: post #123

Earlier quoted context omitted.

What's confusing about it? The government wields executive power, Parliament legislates and holds the government to account.

The confusing part is that the government has to maintain the confidence of the house, and is comprised of members of parliament. Normally the government whips mean that parliament does whatever the government tell it to do, so "holds the government to account" is a laughable statement. Unlike the US system where the president can easily not have the confidence of the Senate or House (R president, D House, D Senate f…

> The confusing part is that the government has to maintain the confidence of the house, and is comprised of members of parliament.

Confidence of the Commons, yes. The government doesn't have a majority in the Lords.

>Normally the government whips mean that parliament does whatever the government tell it to do, so "holds the government to account" is a laughable statement.

To an extent, that's true. The select committee system enables alternate power base within Parliament (especially the Commons) so that independently-minded backbench MPs to scrutinise ministers and other public officials with less interference from the whips.

And over the past 2 parliaments we have seen the rise of the Tory "research groups" - especially the ERG - which have been very influential on the government.

I'm not saying that everything is perfect here, until we ditch the first-past-the-post electoral system everything is still screwed up, but the government does have to listen to Parliament when the latter wants something.

Re: 'Hovering ship' photographed off Cornish coast by walker

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Post by mythbuster1969 »

These kinds of stories always seem to originate in the UK. I read somewhere that planting fake news stories in the mainstream media is a favorite pasttime of the Brits. I believe that this has been photoshopped. I zoomed in on the photo and it is clear to me that the telltale signs of photoshopping are visible around the edges of the ship.

Re: 'Hovering ship' photographed off Cornish coast by walker

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Post by mythbuster1969 »

sandworm101 wrote: post #60

I know these things are happen and I understand the effect, but has anyone looked into whether this was photoshopped? Major news outlets have been fooled in the past. Maybe it is a compression artifact, but the lines of this image look so perfect that I have to at least ask.

I think it was photoshopped. I zoomed in on the photo and if you look closely at the edges around the ship, the colors do not match up with the rest of the photo. As in most photoshop fails, the ship was not cleanly cropped from its original photo, and the parts around the edges of the ship in the original photo don't match the photo in which the ship was inserted.

Re: 'Hovering ship' photographed off Cornish coast by walker

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Post by aaron695 »

This photo is fake. Or it doesn't not represent reality, I guess is more true.

If you were there, you would clearly see it's just a boat sitting on the water. The water changing color towards the ship

I guess you could take a photo yourself, reduce the resolution like here, pick the one that works best and show people, a similar 'real' photo and lie and say it's called a 'superior mirage' (It's beyond a false horizon). But you will never have seen it either, it only exists in the photo.

"Hovering Boats are Usually Not Mirages, they are beyond False Horizons" https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=er1mh90wN-k

Re: 'Hovering ship' photographed off Cornish coast by walker

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Post by [deleted] »

kortilla wrote: post #251
hntrader wrote: post #232

Earlier quoted context omitted.

But again with these 3 ships why is it only the ships themselves being precisely cropped out and not even small remnants of the immediately surrounding water?

They aren’t cropped. They are sitting in fog. The fog is the same color as the sky and there is no backdrop to see through the fog other than the ships. In other words, anything in the fog would be “floating”.

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