Zero Data App
0data.app
Zero Data App
1–10 of 132 posts
Re: Zero Data App
#2For the vast majority of users, isn't having solid export options enough, or even better than this? Your average non-techie isn't going to want to configure each app to get syncing with NextCloud or Dropbox working just right, they just want to perform a task with the app and move on with their lives, regardless of where the data lives. And with an export option, if the app dies, you've still got your blog posts or pictures or drawings or whatever it is you were using the app for.
I think being in this bubble of working in and thinking about tech 24/7 can often make us miss the point - these apps are just meant to be tools to do a task.
Re: Zero Data App
#3For the vast majority of users, isn't having solid export options enough, or even better than this? Your average non-techie isn't going to want to configure each app to get syncing with NextCloud or Dropbox working just right, they just want to perform a task with the app and move on with their lives, regardless of where the data lives. And with an export option, if the app dies, you've still got your blog posts or p…
I think the idea is also to prevent the centralisation of data. Because then, the entity that owns your data can create service plans to expose sections of it. The biggest example is LinkedIn. They charge a ridiculous amount of money to just share someone's job preference - open to work, etc. Paying for a smart aggregation or filtering or any meaningful transformation of the data is acceptable. But not for just sharing the raw data when it is user generated.
I have some vague plans around building a job portal just for startups looking to hire ex-startup founders where the data is not owned by my platform and freely available for everyone to leverage as per user preferences.
Re: Zero Data App
#4For the vast majority of users, isn't having solid export options enough, or even better than this? Your average non-techie isn't going to want to configure each app to get syncing with NextCloud or Dropbox working just right, they just want to perform a task with the app and move on with their lives, regardless of where the data lives. And with an export option, if the app dies, you've still got your blog posts or p…
No, because exporting is not automatic. Most users won't do it.
It's true that most users don't want to configure remote storage for each app. That's solvable though. There should be a way to store your remote storage preferences and just give each app permission to store there in one click.
Re: Zero Data App
#5For the vast majority of users, isn't having solid export options enough, or even better than this? Your average non-techie isn't going to want to configure each app to get syncing with NextCloud or Dropbox working just right, they just want to perform a task with the app and move on with their lives, regardless of where the data lives. And with an export option, if the app dies, you've still got your blog posts or p…
Maybe yes? I’m not seeing anything on this page that describes the intended audience. I know some people care about data privacy, so this seems like it’s for those folks.
I’ve been thinking a lot about the difference between a product and a project. I’m launching an open source project and we need to make it a bit of a product, but I’m hoping to maybe grow a following on patreon or open collective so we don’t have to focus on selling things directly.
Anyway this seems like a cool open source project that might not be trying to be a “product” for the masses.
Re: Zero Data App
#6I'd like to see this applied to online advertising, making cross-site tracking against the law and forcing advertisers to bid per real-time request for user data and the money is paid to the user themselves. Currently advertising platforms make more money by allowing advertisers to better target their ads. I have nothing against this as long as I'm paid for access to my data at the price I think is right (might be MAX_INT, to each their own).
1. Each user would have a "data pod" configured in their browser, storing has as much structured information about the user as the user wants (can be empty, or it can have all the structured data fields you want to insert).
2. The user can update any fields at any point and how access to the data pod is done.
3. The user can setup a BID MINIMUM or MARKET value for access to its data pod, perhaps even having different bid values for each set of data. For example, an advertiser wants to know my name? $0.000001 per request. You want to know my address and what TV shows I like? $0.001 per request. Want my bank data? $1000 per request.
Further this data could be authenticated cryptographically by certain authoritative entities. My government could authenticate that I am indeed from country A, and my pod's data would be signed by them (netflix and spotify could authenticate my media consuming history, etc). From that point onwards advertisers know that this field has been validated and can be incentivised to pay more. This should get rid of the incentives where everyone will self-report as being a US citizen just so their requests have larger bids.
What have I missed?
Re: Zero Data App
#7For the vast majority of users, isn't having solid export options enough, or even better than this? Your average non-techie isn't going to want to configure each app to get syncing with NextCloud or Dropbox working just right, they just want to perform a task with the app and move on with their lives, regardless of where the data lives. And with an export option, if the app dies, you've still got your blog posts or p…
No configuration needed when using iCloud
Re: Zero Data App
#8I'd like to see this applied to online advertising, making cross-site tracking against the law and forcing advertisers to bid per real-time request for user data and the money is paid to the user themselves. Currently advertising platforms make more money by allowing advertisers to better target their ads. I have nothing against this as long as I'm paid for access to my data at the price I think is right (might be MA…
This cannot work without having an unique ID identifying you.
Netflix cannot sign the content you watched.
Re: Zero Data App
#9I'd like to see this applied to online advertising, making cross-site tracking against the law and forcing advertisers to bid per real-time request for user data and the money is paid to the user themselves. Currently advertising platforms make more money by allowing advertisers to better target their ads. I have nothing against this as long as I'm paid for access to my data at the price I think is right (might be MA…
>My government could authenticate that I am indeed from country A, and my pod's data would be signed by them
This is gonna happen sooner or later, but I really don't like it. Once most users have a cryptographically signed national ID on their PC, a lot more websites will require you to provide it. Sites like Netflix that region lock media will force you to show your ID just to sign up
Won't be long before companies get away with the invasive crap they tried and failed to do in the past: "Users Revolt Over Blizzard's Requirement Of 'Real Names' In Forum Comments": https://www.techdirt.com/articles/20100708/03054610123.shtml
Re: Zero Data App
#10> no spam, no captcha, no sign up, no passwords, bring your own identity
I tried one of the projects listed there, and it required me to log in. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯