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Re: Show HN: Relocate.me – get your next tech job abroad

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Post by CalRobert »

jasonkester wrote: post #56

If you’re an American developer looking to move abroad, a much better plan would be to first pick up a remote gig with an American company, and then move overseas. Your take home pay will be easily triple what you can negotiate from a European company. This site takes the opposite approach of finding positions at EU shops that will handle relocation and visas. That certainly helps get you situated, but they’ll likely…

yeah... and even then the higher taxes can be brutal. 52% marginal rate in Ireland, (and the top income tax rate kicks in around 32k eur...)

It's also really hard to go back after five to ten years where you've made 500k+ less than your peers.

Lovely place though!

Re: Show HN: Relocate.me – get your next tech job abroad

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Post by woutr_be »

jasonkester wrote: post #66
woutr_be wrote: post #61

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I don't know all the visa rules, of course. But if you're looking to relocate, you usually needs a visa, or some sort of citizenship. Sponsoring yourself isn't always an option, or might be fairly expensive. The easiest way to relocate is usually to find a company that can sponsor your visa application, so that you're legally staying in the country, and can enjoy all the public services.

Yeah, the visa thing is the real crux. Fortunately with a US bill rate, you’ll have an extra $150k/yr to figure out a way around it. Health insurance a lees of a concern, in practice. Catastrophic coverage is pretty cheap from places like IMG Global, and doctors here are happy to take payment directly for more routine things if you’re not on the national plan. And that payment is forty dollars because there’s are no…

The whole visa hopping thing works, but it’s also fairly uncertain. I know quite a few people who did that in Asia, and have heard multiple stories about immigration catching on and them being refused entry.

I personally migrated by finding a company that would sponsor me, usually switching companies after that is pretty effortless.

Re: Show HN: Relocate.me – get your next tech job abroad

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Post by ricardobayes »

woutr_be wrote: post #61
jasonkester wrote: post #56

If you’re an American developer looking to move abroad, a much better plan would be to first pick up a remote gig with an American company, and then move overseas. Your take home pay will be easily triple what you can negotiate from a European company. This site takes the opposite approach of finding positions at EU shops that will handle relocation and visas. That certainly helps get you situated, but they’ll likely…

I don't know all the visa rules, of course. But if you're looking to relocate, you usually needs a visa, or some sort of citizenship. Sponsoring yourself isn't always an option, or might be fairly expensive. The easiest way to relocate is usually to find a company that can sponsor your visa application, so that you're legally staying in the country, and can enjoy all the public services.

Germany has a self-employed visa with little red tape. Much better than the point-based bs of UK.

Re: Show HN: Relocate.me – get your next tech job abroad

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Post by ricardobayes »

flimflamm wrote: post #64
jasonkester wrote: post #56

If you’re an American developer looking to move abroad, a much better plan would be to first pick up a remote gig with an American company, and then move overseas. Your take home pay will be easily triple what you can negotiate from a European company. This site takes the opposite approach of finding positions at EU shops that will handle relocation and visas. That certainly helps get you situated, but they’ll likely…

"I expect that’s why the jobs listed on this site don’t reveal salaries." Showing salaries is not a common practice in European countries in general.

Becoming increasingly common though.

Re: Show HN: Relocate.me – get your next tech job abroad

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Post by herbst »

jasonkester wrote: post #56

If you’re an American developer looking to move abroad, a much better plan would be to first pick up a remote gig with an American company, and then move overseas. Your take home pay will be easily triple what you can negotiate from a European company. This site takes the opposite approach of finding positions at EU shops that will handle relocation and visas. That certainly helps get you situated, but they’ll likely…

European here, i have yet to see a tech job with only 50k salary. Maybe after European and US taxes are deducted, but here in switzerland you can easily earn more than in the us, especially if you consider the cost of living compared to ex. silicon valley or new york

Re: Show HN: Relocate.me – get your next tech job abroad

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Post by foolmeonce »

ricardobayes wrote: post #73
woutr_be wrote: post #61

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I don't know all the visa rules, of course. But if you're looking to relocate, you usually needs a visa, or some sort of citizenship. Sponsoring yourself isn't always an option, or might be fairly expensive. The easiest way to relocate is usually to find a company that can sponsor your visa application, so that you're legally staying in the country, and can enjoy all the public services.

Germany has a self-employed visa with little red tape. Much better than the point-based bs of UK.

Don't be self employed abroad as a US citizen.

Re: Show HN: Relocate.me – get your next tech job abroad

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Post by herbst »

flimflamm wrote: post #64
jasonkester wrote: post #56

If you’re an American developer looking to move abroad, a much better plan would be to first pick up a remote gig with an American company, and then move overseas. Your take home pay will be easily triple what you can negotiate from a European company. This site takes the opposite approach of finding positions at EU shops that will handle relocation and visas. That certainly helps get you situated, but they’ll likely…

"I expect that’s why the jobs listed on this site don’t reveal salaries." Showing salaries is not a common practice in European countries in general.

Not really true. They often list a base salary. However the actual pay often depends on your education and selling skills. I.e. i never only got what was listed.

Re: Show HN: Relocate.me – get your next tech job abroad

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Post by herbst »

notsureaboutpg wrote: post #37
hc-taway wrote: post #36

Been looking for a country where I can seek permanent residence status (and maybe, later, citizenship) with my family without having to give up my 1099 (contractor) US remote job and find something local (no, I'm not trying to dodge taxes, and I'd fully expect to pay normal taxes on that income for wherever I ended up). Coming from the US (all of us are native-born citizens). It's been tricky. I get why there's not s…

I have exactly the same solution. Job I like, fully remote, place I want to move to (with family) and seek permanent residence status outside the US, don't want to cheat taxes. I'd love some info on how to make this happen.

Most countries have money based visas. Everybody that can proof that they earn enough mone for them and their family can get a visa in switzerland for example. Its not exactly a lot either.

Re: Show HN: Relocate.me – get your next tech job abroad

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Post by vladvasiliu »

herbst wrote: post #75
jasonkester wrote: post #56

If you’re an American developer looking to move abroad, a much better plan would be to first pick up a remote gig with an American company, and then move overseas. Your take home pay will be easily triple what you can negotiate from a European company. This site takes the opposite approach of finding positions at EU shops that will handle relocation and visas. That certainly helps get you situated, but they’ll likely…

European here, i have yet to see a tech job with only 50k salary. Maybe after European and US taxes are deducted, but here in switzerland you can easily earn more than in the us, especially if you consider the cost of living compared to ex. silicon valley or new york

While Switzerland is technically "Europe", people should bear in mind that it's in no way representative of the other countries. Salaries are much higher over there, even when compared to other "rich" countries (France, Germany, etc) Cost of living too from what I understand.

In Paris, for example, 50k is a pretty common salary for a not too senior developer. Outside of Paris, you may need some experience to be able to get that.

Source: A few friends working at tech companies with branches in France, UK and Switzerland (among others).

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