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'Hovering ship' photographed off Cornish coast by walker

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Re: 'Hovering ship' photographed off Cornish coast by walker

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> The license is mandated (in certain circumstances), however the funds are collected by the BBC directly. Interesting. I would still consider that government funded, personally, since it's a mandatory fee imposed by the government and applied to all TV watchers, not just consumers of the BBc. It's certainly a bit more blurry though with the direct collection. > The US mandates obamacare I believe, does that mean it'…

> Interesting. I would still consider that government funded, personally, since it's a mandatory fee imposed by the government and applied to all TV watchers, not just consumers of the BBc. It's certainly a bit more blurry though with the direct collection. Not all consumers. No need for a TV license to listen to radio 4, or use the website. I do have a TV license, but that's mainly because I very occasionally use ip…

> Not all consumers. No need for a TV license to listen to radio 4, or use the website.

I may misunderstand then. In order to watch live TV in the UK you must pay a fee, mandated by the government, and that fee is paid to the BBC? If that's the case, I stand by what I said previously.

> Some states in America require a dog license and/or a cat license, is that a tax? Is a fishing license a tax? How about a fee to enter a national park?

A defacto tax, yes, to all of these. Taking the definition of tax I receive from Google and trimming to the relevant bit: "a compulsory contribution to state revenue ... added to the cost of some goods, services, and transactions." The state says "you must have permission to have a dog. If you want permission, you must pay". That's a compulsory contribution added to the cost of some service.

> In at least some states in the US the government mandates you to have car insurance if the car is operated on the public highway. This mandatory fee is collected by private companies and goes to private companies, is it a tax?

That's an interesting question! My knee jerk reaction is no, and I think it is because the insurance provider is actually selling me a service separate and distinct from the activity. That is to say, the BBC is selling "TV" and you're paying a fee. The insurance carrier is selling me a promise that they'll pay me if something should go wrong while I drive, not driving itself.

I fully admit that's a tenuous difference, and I could probably be convinced otherwise. You make a good point.

Re: 'Hovering ship' photographed off Cornish coast by walker

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BBC is free to UK viewers but ad-supported for international viewers. This seems fair to me as UK citizens are the ones funding it.

The marginal cost of UK vs international viewers is less than the ad revenue collected, I expect. Since the ads are the same as CNN or other for profit news agencies it also seems odd that a non-profit, government (in the English language sense, not the UK part of government sense) would have more stringent ad controls than for profit. Making a government news source profit seeking is a pretty bad plan, I think.

BBC Worldwide has always been profit seeking (because it subsidizes the UK taxpayer so the license fee can be lower). If you're not going to see the Ads, then the website also has a right to deny you access.

Re: 'Hovering ship' photographed off Cornish coast by walker

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The Action Lab had a great video about this effect recently. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CrgKUFbwNf0

I love this guy's channel. He's constantly cranking out new ideas.

I'm always really impressed how he can make a video that sounds like clickbait, but usually go into pretty interesting (and accurate) scientific detail.

Re: 'Hovering ship' photographed off Cornish coast by walker

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This picture will help explain the "superior mirage": https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/4/45/Su... Note in the OP's original link the bottom half is cut off entirely. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mirage?oldformat=true#Superior...

Oh wow! Thanks for sharing. I thought the original looked super weird, but seeing your "distorted" version instantly brought back flashbacks to when I saw this in South Dennis, MA, a few years ago. I took photos and couldn't figure out what the heck was out there, but it was this. Thanks!

Re: 'Hovering ship' photographed off Cornish coast by walker

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Nice try by the government to cover up testing of anti-gravity drive recovered from UFO.

Could you please stop creating accounts for every few comments you post? We ban accounts that do that. This is in the site guidelines: https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html.

You needn't use your real name, of course, but for HN to be a community, users need some identity for other users to relate to. Otherwise we may as well have no usernames and no community, and that would be a different kind of forum. https://hn.algolia.com/?query=community%20identity%20by:dang...

Re: 'Hovering ship' photographed off Cornish coast by walker

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The title should be 'Hovering ship', as it is in the BBC article. There is nothing special about a floating ship.

The submitter posted the title that the article had at the time. Then the BBC changed it there. Then a moderator changed it here. And then a moderator (this one!) marked this subthread—which was stuck to the top of the page, gathering mass and choking out anything interesting—off topic.

I don't fault the comment for that so much as the upvotes, but downweighting top subthreads that are off-topic and/or generic in uninteresting ways is probably the highest-leverage intervention that moderators do here. Unfortunately it requires human intervention, and we don't see all the threads, so if anyone notices an off-topic or generic top subthread before we do, letting us know at hn@ycombinator.com is super helpful.

Re: 'Hovering ship' photographed off Cornish coast by walker

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"...The optical phenomenon occurs because rays of light are bent when they pass through air layers of different temperatures in a steep thermal inversion where an atmospheric duct has formed..." To me that's the most Men In Black explanation I've ever heard. Definitely confirms this is aliens.

Or proof the earth is flat.

Nah, they're just sailing to Valinor.
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