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Re: Launch HN: Athens Research (YC W21) – Open-Source Roam Research

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Post by hvlck » Fri, Mar 05, 2021, 10:14 PM UTC

pedro1976 wrote: post #131

hvlck wrote: post #95

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I've been thinking of a tool to generate a kind of schema for a website, similar to RDF[0] or JSON-LD[1]. The end goal of this would be interoperability between tools - ideally I could browse HN and other related sites or forums in my RSS reader with a unified interface, or translate the Roam note format into the Athens equivalent to use with either. [0] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Resource_Description_Framework [1…

To me RSS is exactly that. I don't see the advantage of converting an HTML to RDF because it would cover the entire spectrum. All the semantics might be lost. RSS is the smallest common denominator. If you agree somehow, you might be interested in that tool [0], it converts HTML to RSS using pattern matching. [0] https://github.com/damoeb/rss-proxy

As it turns out there is already a tool [0] for my original idea which I just discovered today [1].

[0] https://github.com/inkandswitch/cambria [1] https://www.inkandswitch.com/cambria.html

Re: Launch HN: Athens Research (YC W21) – Open-Source Roam Research

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Post by fabiospampinato » Fri, Mar 05, 2021, 10:17 PM UTC

tangjeff0 wrote: post #48

fabiospampinato wrote: post #22

> Something else that's interesting about the most powerful networked tools like Roam and Athens is that you can't really make these apps with JavaScript How come? There's no single feature that you can implement in any other programming language that you can't also implement with JavaScript, right?

Have you read PG's essay on Lisp? (Clojure is a dialog of Lisp) http://www.paulgraham.com/avg.html Main reason is access to datascript, one of the only client-side graph databases, which doesn't work the same with JavaScript.

I've read it now. I still think it's obviously wrong to say that JavaScript can't be used for this. It's not like we are comparing Closure with Cobol here.

I highly doubt using datascript will give you a significant advantage over competitors in the long term, and I say this as somebody building pretty much a competitor app with Electron, but that's more a matter of personal opinion so I can only wish you good luck about that.

Re: Launch HN: Athens Research (YC W21) – Open-Source Roam Research

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Post by bckr » Sun, Mar 14, 2021, 12:06 AM UTC

pps wrote: post #72

bachmeier wrote: post #70

A few alternatives in this space: org-roam https://www.orgroam.com/ tiddlyroam https://tiddlyroam.org/ Dendron https://dendron.so/ Foam https://foambubble.github.io/foam/ Remnote https://www.remnote.io/ Obsidian https://obsidian.md/ logseq https://logseq.com/ Not an expert with them at all. I've never had a desire to dig into all their complexity, but some are pretty passionate about it.

And a "few" more here https://www.notion.so/Artificial-Brain-Networked-with-linear... ;)

Wow, I was a little thrown by the wink and the introduction to this notepage but after briefly scrolling I have to say this is quite inspired, thank you for sharing this research