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'Hovering ship' photographed off Cornish coast by walker

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I think "Flying" would be even better, as the ship is most likely moving somewhere, not just standing still. Would also tie the story into the story of the Flying Dutchman ( https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Flying_Dutchman ) and maybe provide some explanation for why people been seeing it as flying

Especially if you can see big sails flapping or moving with the wind.

Or if it's got a hydrofoil. Those are also flying, just in water

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Something just occurred to me. Is this actually an optical illusion? My idea of an optical illusion is one where your brain perceives something that is different from reality. Indeed, when I look it up I see examples of that (e.g. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Optical_illusion ) But in this case your brain isn't doing anything wrong, the light reaching your eyes is what's "wrong" and your brain is correctly interpret…

This is a false horizon. Your eyes are seeing the reflection of the sky on the distant water or fog, making it appear the horizon is closer than it really is. So it is an optical illusion, as your brain is what is perceiving a horizon where it is not.

It’s not just one person’s brain, right? Everyone who was there would see the same thing. Surely, that means our brains are pretty much wired the same. But I wonder if some people would see the “correct” thing.

What’s also mind blowing is that the camera captures the same thing your brain is interpreting!

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The original title may have changed in response to similar comments.

BBC article names change very frequently, often multiple times in only a few hours.

Le Monde in France do that too. They even go as far as rewriting portions of their articles after publishing, and partially re-using them under different title(s). Hard to take them seriously when they cry about fake news when their own articles are so malleable.

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> It's not even funded by the UK government.[0] > The BBC is primarily funded by the TV Licence. The licence is levvied on anyone who watches live TV (any live TV) Who mandates the payment of a TV License and allocates the funds from it to the BBC? I would assume that's the UK government. These terms may be used differently in the UK, but in the US that would be considered government funded.

The license is mandated (in certain circumstances), however the funds are collected by the BBC directly. The US mandates obamacare I believe, does that mean it's government funded?

> The license is mandated (in certain circumstances), however the funds are collected by the BBC directly.

Interesting. I would still consider that government funded, personally, since it's a mandatory fee imposed by the government and applied to all TV watchers, not just consumers of the BBc. It's certainly a bit more blurry though with the direct collection.

> The US mandates obamacare I believe, does that mean it's government funded?

It depends what you mean. "Obamacare" is an extremely broad term.

Speaking generally: If the government is mandating a fee for some activity, and allocating the funds from said fee to some entity, that entity is government funded. Those fees are defacto taxes.

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If anyone doesn’t get the reference, this is required viewing. It’s gold. https://youtu.be/3m5qxZm_JqM

Marvellous; I'd never seen this. The format and humour remind me very strongly of the Bird & Fortune (aka The Long Johns) skits here in the UK: https://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=bird+%26+fortun...

You should watch more of these two, Clark and Dawe on YouTube. Behind the humor is biting commentary but a lot of education, I learned a lot through their humorous and pretend political interviews as an American about the Australian government and even the European debt crisis.

John Clark (the one who kept insisting the front fell off) passed away a few years ago.

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The license is mandated (in certain circumstances), however the funds are collected by the BBC directly. The US mandates obamacare I believe, does that mean it's government funded?

> The license is mandated (in certain circumstances), however the funds are collected by the BBC directly. Interesting. I would still consider that government funded, personally, since it's a mandatory fee imposed by the government and applied to all TV watchers, not just consumers of the BBc. It's certainly a bit more blurry though with the direct collection. > The US mandates obamacare I believe, does that mean it'…

> Interesting. I would still consider that government funded, personally, since it's a mandatory fee imposed by the government and applied to all TV watchers, not just consumers of the BBc. It's certainly a bit more blurry though with the direct collection.

Not all consumers. No need for a TV license to listen to radio 4, or use the website.

I do have a TV license, but that's mainly because I very occasionally use iplayer - I don't even own a TV aerial.

Some states in America require a dog license and/or a cat license, is that a tax? Is a fishing license a tax? How about a fee to enter a national park?

In at least some states in the US the government mandates you to have car insurance if the car is operated on the public highway. This mandatory fee is collected by private companies and goes to private companies, is it a tax?

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Same in Denmark, but the collective opinion is that the structure makes the license a TV tax (a yearly fee you must pay by government mandate as a result of owning a type of device irrespective of use) that goes to the media company, thus making it state funded by that tax, regardless of what the company and government claim. If it was independent it would have to sell its services on its own, with citizens purchasin…

> a TV tax (a yearly fee you must pay by government mandate as a result of owning a type of device irrespective of use That's not the case in the UK. You only need a TV license if you use equipment to receive a live TV programme (which is something that falls under the remit of OFCOM[1] - not a livestream of Everyday Astronaut), or if you use BBC's iplayer. [1] Specifically from 2003 communications act “television pr…

> You only need a TV license if you use equipment to receive a live TV programme

Better than Denmark, but the quoted legal snippet is not restricted to BBC content, but instead applies to reception or any kind of television broadcast irrespective of provider or source (foreign satellite TV being an obvious alternative).

It's a different TV tax than that in Denmark, but absolutely a government mandated tax.

(I am unsure how to interpret the digital television broadcast service aspect. I wonder if they mean something wider than DVB, as the previous points do not use "analogue" as classifier. It's need more of the text to figure that out.)

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