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Myths about how the brain works

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> fish fMRI studies Link for those curious about this comment: (Neural Correlates of Interspecies Perspective Taking in the Post-Mortem Atlantic Salmon: An Argument For Proper Multiple Comparisons Correction)[ https://teenspecies.github.io/pdfs/NeuralCorrelates.pdf ]

As the first author of that paper, I approve of this link.

Still one of my favorite papers I was ever assigned in my cog sci grad program.

Re: Myths about how the brain works

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post #65

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> fish fMRI studies Link for those curious about this comment: (Neural Correlates of Interspecies Perspective Taking in the Post-Mortem Atlantic Salmon: An Argument For Proper Multiple Comparisons Correction)[ https://teenspecies.github.io/pdfs/NeuralCorrelates.pdf ]

As the first author of that paper, I approve of this link.

Am I reading this right: you compared fMRI studies in humans to a dead fish?

Re: Myths about how the brain works

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While it's not a fixed function pipeline, there is some level of correlation between 'brain damage at site x' and 'effect y' so while phrenology is bunk, the brain is also not just a blob of compute.

I was really annoyed by that one because the "areas of brain do different tasks" hypothesis has very little to do with phrenology, which is about how studying the shape of the skull might tell you things about the personality and thus has very little to do with the brain itself. And is complete bunk, unlike the brain regions thing which is not simple but does have some basis in fact as you pointed out.

Re: Myths about how the brain works

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The central thesis is excellent, but this really caught my eye: > Depression is usually catalogued as a mental illness, but it’s as much a metabolic illness as cardiovascular disease, which itself has significant mood-related symptoms. These two diseases occur together so often that some medical researchers believe that one may cause the other. That perspective is steeped in Cartesian dualism. Both depression and car…

I wish this to be true. I'm in excellent cardiovascular health - low BP, 60 bpm resting heart rate, extensive cardio/endurance activity 4-5 days per week. Utterly miserable every waking hour.

As someone who has dealt with anxiety, depression, and OCD, I am truly sorry that you have to go through that. I don’t know if you’ve talked to doctors about it, but if you found their support lacking, please keep trying. It took 5 different doctors, psychs, and therapists before I finally found a team of professionals that could treat my OCD effectively. And they really did help.

Re: Myths about how the brain works

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You do realize what you're proposing happened and happens extensively?

I've read a decent chunk of that research, but it's often relegated to backwater low-reputation journals focused on alternative medicine and is largely ignored by mainstream science. For an example, see the research on various traditional sleep-inducing drugs. It also doesn't make its way into mainstream practice among GPs and psychiatrists. As an example, which mainstream practitioner would ever prescribe or recomme…

Not in that way, no. Pharma, on the other hand, often looks into various remedies etc. in order to draw from and produce more distilled and controllable substances. Aspirin for example, from 'cook a tree bark and drink the solution' into a pill process. Penicillin.. etc.

Re: Myths about how the brain works

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I wouldn't say that the Triune brain theory is a 'myth'. It's just not accurate, but it's not a complete lie either. There certainly are different parts of the brain that have evolved at different times, and have different functions. The older parts have evolved to specific functions, while neocortex, which is found in mammals, has a uniform structure and is capable of learning and adapting to different tasks. 75% of…

Brodmann distinguishes 47 or so different areas in the cortex. Idk how many are exclusive to the neocortex, but it's not a uniform structure.

I'm not an expert on the topic, but as Jeff Hawkings says in the video, the differences are caused by the fact that different areas of neocortex are connected to different inputs. The underlying structure is uniform, which can adapt to different inputs.

Re: Myths about how the brain works

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I wouldn't say that the Triune brain theory is a 'myth'. It's just not accurate, but it's not a complete lie either. There certainly are different parts of the brain that have evolved at different times, and have different functions. The older parts have evolved to specific functions, while neocortex, which is found in mammals, has a uniform structure and is capable of learning and adapting to different tasks. 75% of…

This article takes obvious simplifications/generalizations and tries to act like it's all wrong because they're simplifications/generalizations. Obviously simplifications leave out detailed minutiae, that's the point. It doesn't mean the general concept is wrong, it just means that there's more to it once you get into the details.

Re: Myths about how the brain works

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That to me is really how we need to be emphasizing education in science for young people. We tend to give the impression that we’ve figured almost everything out, and so you’re just learning the facts of it all. Really, we’ve carved out a little island in a sea of ignorance, and the foundations of the island are just our current best rough approximations that might collapse. An example from the field I’m in — biology…

The major questions of biology have already been solved, though. The rest is filling in the details.

My above comment was not ironic. What I meant is that we have already discovered the algorithm that gives rise to all biological phenomena: Evolution by Natural Selection.

We also have some grand principles that further unite the field, like the cell as the basic unit of organismal life, emergent properties of higher order systems, &c.

The remaining work is mostly 'stamp collecting' - looking at the details of the output of that algorithm. Of course those details are enormously complex. Kind of like mapping out the Mandlebrot Set after you already know the algorithm.

Re: Myths about how the brain works

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The major questions of biology have already been solved, though. The rest is filling in the details.

My above comment was not ironic. What I meant is that we have already discovered the algorithm that gives rise to all biological phenomena: Evolution by Natural Selection. We also have some grand principles that further unite the field, like the cell as the basic unit of organismal life, emergent properties of higher order systems, &c. The remaining work is mostly 'stamp collecting' - looking at the details of the ou…

Well the stamp collecting is where the action is.

If you wanna cure cancer, resolve chronic diseases, conserve ecosystems under climate change, etc.

It’s cool to know that DNA exists and that life evolves by natural selection, but getting into the complex weeds of that fractal is where we discover that we know so little.

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