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Re: Delicious 2.0 Launches For Real

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Post by prakash » Thu, Jul 31, 2008, 8:30 PM UTC

joshu wrote: post #9

jm4 wrote: post #3

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Now that I use the new one I'm wondering what the long wait was for. The search stuff is ok, but I don't really see anything else besides that and the new look. It's much slower than the old one. =/ I hope they plan to roll out more because this is pretty lackluster considering how long they've been talking about it.

Someday I'll have to tell the whole story. Suffice it for now that the separation between product and engineering makes neither better.

would Product Engineers be the right set of folks to lead such initiatives?

Re: Delicious 2.0 Launches For Real

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Post by gms » Thu, Jul 31, 2008, 8:32 PM UTC

joshu wrote: post #9

jm4 wrote: post #3

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Now that I use the new one I'm wondering what the long wait was for. The search stuff is ok, but I don't really see anything else besides that and the new look. It's much slower than the old one. =/ I hope they plan to roll out more because this is pretty lackluster considering how long they've been talking about it.

Someday I'll have to tell the whole story. Suffice it for now that the separation between product and engineering makes neither better.

What do 'product' do? The actual design, which is then handed over to engineering for implementation?

Re: Delicious 2.0 Launches For Real

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Post by joshu » Thu, Jul 31, 2008, 8:37 PM UTC

gms wrote: post #12

joshu wrote: post #9

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Someday I'll have to tell the whole story. Suffice it for now that the separation between product and engineering makes neither better.

What do 'product' do? The actual design, which is then handed over to engineering for implementation?

Something like that, yes.

There's Product Managers, Project Managers, Program Managers, Engineering managers.

I think what happens is you have Product guys on one hand and Developers on the other.

Engineering is inbetween and consists of the calculus of tradeoffs both from the technology and from functionality. Most of the people with "engineer" in their title are really developers, that just implement.

Then again, all this Silicon Valley software company mumbo jumbo is new to me -- I'm still somewhat new to this industry...

Re: Delicious 2.0 Launches For Real

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Post by moonriver » Thu, Jul 31, 2008, 9:30 PM UTC

I haven't been "waiting" for the new design, so it not having any major changes doesn't bother me. It's a nice, fresh design and I like it - I'm glad they haven't done anything drastic.

Re: Delicious 2.0 Launches For Real

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Post by cmars232 » Thu, Jul 31, 2008, 9:43 PM UTC

I'm a long-time del.icio.us user and I feel burned. Performance looks good, but I absolutely hate the new layout, its distracting and completely defeats the original simplistic appeal of the site. It kind of looks like Digg painted blue... and I'm a reddit-kind of guy :P

At least when Microsoft came out with Vista I could choose not to upgrade and keep XP. This really sucks!

Any recommendations on alternatives that are more like "del.icio.us" than "delicious.com"?

Re: Delicious 2.0 Launches For Real

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Post by nickb » Thu, Jul 31, 2008, 10:40 PM UTC

Can I have old one back? This version sucks. Tag completion is crappy and you don't see the tags that other people selected for the link. Speed of entry was one thing that I liked about del.icio.us and now that it's gone, it's horrible. Two features that made me wanna use it are now gone. Great :(

If anyone has some suggestions for some other bookmark site, please leave them here.... I'm leaving delicious.com

Re: Delicious 2.0 Launches For Real

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Post by joao » Thu, Jul 31, 2008, 10:56 PM UTC

They really have a big team working on it, curious to see that they display all their names and bookmarks: http://delicious.com/about

Unfortunately the UI is way to bloated, not enought contrast between the elements, like the old layout had. But perfomance wise, it seems that the migration to the PHP Symfony framework helped to speed things out.

Re: Delicious 2.0 Launches For Real

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Post by tocomment » Thu, Jul 31, 2008, 11:40 PM UTC

I'd like to see a simplified del.icio.us bookmarklet for the iPhone. Their new one is just too bulky to maneuver on my little phone.

Re: Delicious 2.0 Launches For Real

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Post by inigojones » Thu, Jul 31, 2008, 11:57 PM UTC

A classic example of fixing what's not broken.

Re: Delicious 2.0 Launches For Real

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Post by jonmc12 » Fri, Aug 01, 2008, 1:23 AM UTC

cmars232 wrote: post #15

I'm a long-time del.icio.us user and I feel burned. Performance looks good, but I absolutely hate the new layout, its distracting and completely defeats the original simplistic appeal of the site. It kind of looks like Digg painted blue... and I'm a reddit-kind of guy :P At least when Microsoft came out with Vista I could choose not to upgrade and keep XP. This really sucks! Any recommendations on alternatives that a…

Twine.com is cool, I've been using it alongside del.icio.us for the last few months