Earlier quoted context omitted.
I’m just curious, is there any time when having a battery explode into flaming debris a good thing? :)
A little extra kick during staging for Rocketlab :)
Not if they wanna reuse though. ;)
"World's highest-capacity" solid-state battery developed in Japan
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Re: "World's highest-capacity" solid-state battery developed in Japan
#22---------------------------------------------------------------- Dear battery technology claimant, Thank you for your submission of proposed new revolutionary battery technology. Your new technology claims to be superior to existing lithium-ion technology is is just around the corner from taking over the world. Unfortunately your technology will likely fail, because: [ ] it is impractical to manufacture at scale. [x]…
Yet another example of a glib response ignoring the actual facts in the article and ironic to boot given that lithium-ion suffers from several of the flaws listed. The funny thing is, none of the claims you make are correct and you miss the point where this tech is specifically designed to cover areas where Li-ion fails (like high temp and places where having a battery explode into flaming debris is a bad thing.)
It was funny tho.
Re: "World's highest-capacity" solid-state battery developed in Japan
#23---------------------------------------------------------------- Dear battery technology claimant, Thank you for your submission of proposed new revolutionary battery technology. Your new technology claims to be superior to existing lithium-ion technology is is just around the corner from taking over the world. Unfortunately your technology will likely fail, because: [ ] it is impractical to manufacture at scale. [x]…
Sure it's a funny checklist but not very useful since it can be used to dismiss anything. Coal can generate a lot of electricity even in the dark or in the gentlest of breezes yet we still develop tech for solar or wind power.
Re: "World's highest-capacity" solid-state battery developed in Japan
#24From the company website:
"Hitachi Zosen is promoting development into an all-solid-state lithium ion battery that is anticipated as a post-lithium ion battery applicable to next-generation cars. We have developed an original manufacturing method that has successfully created an all-solid-state battery without the mechanical pressure conventionally used during charging and discharging. Our battery maintains a high level of safety and has a wide operating temperature range of -40℃ to 100℃. It can work under environments where current lithium ion batteries cannot, and its application to new fields and markets is expected."
https://www.hitachizosen.co.jp/english/technology/hitz-repor...
Re: "World's highest-capacity" solid-state battery developed in Japan
#25> Those used in smartphones offer a capacity of thousands of milliampere per hour. Capacity is measured as a product of current and time, not current per time.
Or, even better, the product of Watts and time (Watt-hours).
mA-hours doesn't mean much if you don't know the battery's voltage.
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#26Earlier quoted context omitted.
As history has shown w.r.t spam, the stuff eventually gets sorted out I'm sure people could have come with similar criticism for li-ion batteries, before them took over
Not only that, if this battery had been available first then the attack on someone pushing Li-ion would have been: [x] it lacks thermal stability at low or high temperatures. [x] it is too likely to catch fire or explode. Too many people think Li-ion is magic, when it just happens to occupy a particular niche of characteristics that let it get a good early jump in the race for portable power. Nothing about the chemis…
Yes but Li-ion was first, so that's what you now have to beat (including the ways in which world has adapted/overcome its shortfalls).
Re: "World's highest-capacity" solid-state battery developed in Japan
#27---------------------------------------------------------------- Dear battery technology claimant, Thank you for your submission of proposed new revolutionary battery technology. Your new technology claims to be superior to existing lithium-ion technology is is just around the corner from taking over the world. Unfortunately your technology will likely fail, because: [ ] it is impractical to manufacture at scale. [x]…
Yet another example of a glib response ignoring the actual facts in the article and ironic to boot given that lithium-ion suffers from several of the flaws listed. The funny thing is, none of the claims you make are correct and you miss the point where this tech is specifically designed to cover areas where Li-ion fails (like high temp and places where having a battery explode into flaming debris is a bad thing.)
Humour is rarely appreciated here, but I found this funny and on point.
Battery technology announcements are always extremely over hyped. Mostly by media and PR departments rather than actual scientific or domain specific outlets.
Advancements happen, but even if they are technically and commercially viable, it takes years until anything becomes actually useful.
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#28Earlier quoted context omitted.
Yet another example of a glib response ignoring the actual facts in the article and ironic to boot given that lithium-ion suffers from several of the flaws listed. The funny thing is, none of the claims you make are correct and you miss the point where this tech is specifically designed to cover areas where Li-ion fails (like high temp and places where having a battery explode into flaming debris is a bad thing.)
Humour is rarely appreciated here, but I found this funny and on point. Battery technology announcements are always extremely over hyped. Mostly by media and PR departments rather than actual scientific or domain specific outlets. Advancements happen, but even if they are technically and commercially viable, it takes years until anything becomes actually useful.
I found it tedious. Pretty much every post about advancements in battery technology on HN have a similarly cynical post at the top. I wondered what this one would be before I clicked on the comments link.
Re: "World's highest-capacity" solid-state battery developed in Japan
#29---------------------------------------------------------------- Dear battery technology claimant, Thank you for your submission of proposed new revolutionary battery technology. Your new technology claims to be superior to existing lithium-ion technology is is just around the corner from taking over the world. Unfortunately your technology will likely fail, because: [ ] it is impractical to manufacture at scale. [x]…
this is amazing, thank you.
Re: "World's highest-capacity" solid-state battery developed in Japan
#30Earlier quoted context omitted.
Yet another example of a glib response ignoring the actual facts in the article and ironic to boot given that lithium-ion suffers from several of the flaws listed. The funny thing is, none of the claims you make are correct and you miss the point where this tech is specifically designed to cover areas where Li-ion fails (like high temp and places where having a battery explode into flaming debris is a bad thing.)
Humour is rarely appreciated here, but I found this funny and on point. Battery technology announcements are always extremely over hyped. Mostly by media and PR departments rather than actual scientific or domain specific outlets. Advancements happen, but even if they are technically and commercially viable, it takes years until anything becomes actually useful.
Funnily enough, I remember reading an article many years ago (I was about 10, so it would have been mid to late 80s) about LiPo being the next big thing, and the author making all sorts of claims about how battery technology announcements being over-hyped.
You're correct, but eventually one of these announcements will live up to the promise. LiPo was basically stumbling due to a few manufacturing at scale issues at the time, and once those got solved (Sony released a standard LiPo cell in 1991) it wasn't long before it became the new standard.
I'm still sceptical of new battery tech announcements, but I still get excited by them!