Tintern 'secret' medieval tunnel system found by accident

Post by Taniwha » Thu, Mar 04, 2021, 10:48 PM UTC

gumby wrote: post #31

dmix wrote: post #12

You have to love the s/weird/unusual [1] names of places in the UK (and it looks like a beautiful area from the small picture): > Tintern, in the Wye Valley, Monmouthshire There's also plenty of "upon the"s and "x-in-y" (ie: Henly-in-Arden). Not just the England but seems just as common in Scotland, or even more common. I can imagine the early computer systems of the postal organization having to deal with these quir…

> There's also plenty of "upon the"s and "x-in-y" (ie: Henly-in-Arden). These are common in many languages. Even in England: Weston-super-Mare is just latin for "Weston by (literally "over") the sea". And constructs like "Stratford-upon-Avon" (to disambiguate from other Stratfords) are pretty common in most places; consider " Frankfurt am Main " and " Frankfurt an der Oder " all of which specify that their town is th…

Post by mpclark » Thu, Mar 04, 2021, 10:59 PM UTC

gorgoiler wrote: post #35

kraftman wrote: post #24

Earlier quoted context omitted.

If you're interested, Wye comes from the name of the river, which means either to wander, or crooked hills. Either seem relevant given the strange way that the river wye goes from wide, slow meandering bends across floodplains into rapids through steep crooked valleys (as opposed to most rivers that start in mountains and end in floodplains.) Monmouth is at the mouth of the river Monnow, a tributary of the Wye.

Keep unpacking meanings please, this is really interesting. Where do Monnow and Tintern come from?

Post by aaron695 » Thu, Mar 04, 2021, 11:25 PM UTC

Uhhrrr wrote: post #42

The article doesn't say how they know it's medieval.

Post by Daub » Thu, Mar 04, 2021, 11:43 PM UTC

dmix wrote: post #12

You have to love the s/weird/unusual [1] names of places in the UK (and it looks like a beautiful area from the small picture): > Tintern, in the Wye Valley, Monmouthshire There's also plenty of "upon the"s and "x-in-y" (ie: Henly-in-Arden). Not just the England but seems just as common in Scotland, or even more common. I can imagine the early computer systems of the postal organization having to deal with these quir…

Post by mstade » Fri, Mar 05, 2021, 12:12 AM UTC

bluGill wrote: post #41

gumby wrote: post #31

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> There's also plenty of "upon the"s and "x-in-y" (ie: Henly-in-Arden). These are common in many languages. Even in England: Weston-super-Mare is just latin for "Weston by (literally "over") the sea". And constructs like "Stratford-upon-Avon" (to disambiguate from other Stratfords) are pretty common in most places; consider " Frankfurt am Main " and " Frankfurt an der Oder " all of which specify that their town is th…

> I don't know why this construct is uncommon in the USA. In the US we use a comma. Buffalo, NY - as opposed to Buffalo in any other state. (MN, TX, and WI each have a city of buffalo - perhaps more, that is where I stopped searching). States in the US tend to be very careful about not allowing duplication of names so this is enough for the most part.