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Tintern 'secret' medieval tunnel system found by accident

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Re: Tintern 'secret' medieval tunnel system found by accident

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You have to love the s/weird/unusual [1] names of places in the UK (and it looks like a beautiful area from the small picture): > Tintern, in the Wye Valley, Monmouthshire There's also plenty of "upon the"s and "x-in-y" (ie: Henly-in-Arden). Not just the England but seems just as common in Scotland, or even more common. I can imagine the early computer systems of the postal organization having to deal with these quir…

> There's also plenty of "upon the"s and "x-in-y" (ie: Henly-in-Arden). These are common in many languages. Even in England: Weston-super-Mare is just latin for "Weston by (literally "over") the sea". And constructs like "Stratford-upon-Avon" (to disambiguate from other Stratfords) are pretty common in most places; consider " Frankfurt am Main " and " Frankfurt an der Oder " all of which specify that their town is th…

> I don't know why this construct is uncommon in the USA.

In the US we use a comma. Buffalo, NY - as opposed to Buffalo in any other state. (MN, TX, and WI each have a city of buffalo - perhaps more, that is where I stopped searching). States in the US tend to be very careful about not allowing duplication of names so this is enough for the most part.

Re: Tintern 'secret' medieval tunnel system found by accident

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You have to love the s/weird/unusual [1] names of places in the UK (and it looks like a beautiful area from the small picture): > Tintern, in the Wye Valley, Monmouthshire There's also plenty of "upon the"s and "x-in-y" (ie: Henly-in-Arden). Not just the England but seems just as common in Scotland, or even more common. I can imagine the early computer systems of the postal organization having to deal with these quir…

Tintern is a beautiful place, and Tintern Abbey is particularly so - plus it has an amazingly rich history.

See: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tintern_Abbey

Edited to add - Nice set of photos at the bottom of this page:

https://medievalheritage.eu/en/main-page/heritage/wales/tint...

Re: Tintern 'secret' medieval tunnel system found by accident

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You have to love the s/weird/unusual [1] names of places in the UK (and it looks like a beautiful area from the small picture): > Tintern, in the Wye Valley, Monmouthshire There's also plenty of "upon the"s and "x-in-y" (ie: Henly-in-Arden). Not just the England but seems just as common in Scotland, or even more common. I can imagine the early computer systems of the postal organization having to deal with these quir…

> There's also plenty of "upon the"s and "x-in-y" (ie: Henly-in-Arden). These are common in many languages. Even in England: Weston-super-Mare is just latin for "Weston by (literally "over") the sea". And constructs like "Stratford-upon-Avon" (to disambiguate from other Stratfords) are pretty common in most places; consider " Frankfurt am Main " and " Frankfurt an der Oder " all of which specify that their town is th…

New York has quite a few on-river names: Annandale-, Castleton-, Croton-, Hastings-, and Grand View-on-Hudson - maybe a legacy of the era in which the state was colonized.

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In England years ago we would visit Weston-under-Lizard (the town of Weston in the shadow of the hill Lizard — https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Weston-under-Lizard ). That’s my favorite name of this type.

Never thought I’d see my part of the world on here; used to drive through Weston under Lizard every day. Some good place names in Shropshire, too, but Durham has my favourite with No Place and Pity Me.

Don’t forget Quaking Houses and Unthank!

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> There's also plenty of "upon the"s and "x-in-y" (ie: Henly-in-Arden). These are common in many languages. Even in England: Weston-super-Mare is just latin for "Weston by (literally "over") the sea". And constructs like "Stratford-upon-Avon" (to disambiguate from other Stratfords) are pretty common in most places; consider " Frankfurt am Main " and " Frankfurt an der Oder " all of which specify that their town is th…

New York has quite a few on-river names: Annandale-, Castleton-, Croton-, Hastings-, and Grand View-on-Hudson - maybe a legacy of the era in which the state was colonized.

Those are the stations when they put you on the Wolverine up to Annandale. Ain’t never going back, though.

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> There's also plenty of "upon the"s and "x-in-y" (ie: Henly-in-Arden). These are common in many languages. Even in England: Weston-super-Mare is just latin for "Weston by (literally "over") the sea". And constructs like "Stratford-upon-Avon" (to disambiguate from other Stratfords) are pretty common in most places; consider " Frankfurt am Main " and " Frankfurt an der Oder " all of which specify that their town is th…

> I don't know why this construct is uncommon in the USA. In the US we use a comma. Buffalo, NY - as opposed to Buffalo in any other state. (MN, TX, and WI each have a city of buffalo - perhaps more, that is where I stopped searching). States in the US tend to be very careful about not allowing duplication of names so this is enough for the most part.

> States in the US tend to be very careful about not allowing duplication of names so this is enough for the most part.

True, although if you include unincorporated towns, there are a lot of naming conflicts, at least in my home state of Indiana.

Marion, for example, is the name of a small city an hour from Marion County, the central county that encompasses Indianapolis, and also the name of a small unincorporated community an hour in a different direction.

Plus Marian University is in Marion County, not Marion the city, although unlike Harvard, MA vs Harvard University, I doubt that causes much confusion.

Re: Tintern 'secret' medieval tunnel system found by accident

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You have to love the s/weird/unusual [1] names of places in the UK (and it looks like a beautiful area from the small picture): > Tintern, in the Wye Valley, Monmouthshire There's also plenty of "upon the"s and "x-in-y" (ie: Henly-in-Arden). Not just the England but seems just as common in Scotland, or even more common. I can imagine the early computer systems of the postal organization having to deal with these quir…

Treat yourself to this map, you've earned it: https://marvellousmaps.com/stgs-great-british-place-names-ma...
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