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TSMC at the head of history’s tide: two high walls and one sharp knife

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Re: TSMC at the head of history’s tide: two high walls and one sharp knife

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Post by shitpostbot »

nomay wrote: post #22
rjzzleep wrote: post #13

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How is Chinese "self-media" being gossip blogs needing salt different from all the jobs, elon musk, paul graham and other kind of hero worship this place is normally overflowing with? Don't get me wrong, I'm generally against Hero worship in general, and I have my fair share of beefs with ALL these different hero worship things, but I grew up on Bill Gates hero worship only to later find out that he sold the whole th…

Coz Chinese people have been conditioned by a level censorship and media control unseen elsewhere, the resulting susceptibility to yummy and palatble disinformation is quite deep and prevalent, you may have read news about strong reaction about strange things from the west, you guessed it right there's alway legions of "self-media" behind it, it’s unfettered and state sanctioned algorithm-driven circlejerk machine, a…

I mean, we did just have an attempted coup here in America driven by social media brainwashing...

Re: TSMC at the head of history’s tide: two high walls and one sharp knife

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Post by minhazm »

tehjoker wrote: post #68
nomay wrote: post #22

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Coz Chinese people have been conditioned by a level censorship and media control unseen elsewhere, the resulting susceptibility to yummy and palatble disinformation is quite deep and prevalent, you may have read news about strong reaction about strange things from the west, you guessed it right there's alway legions of "self-media" behind it, it’s unfettered and state sanctioned algorithm-driven circlejerk machine, a…

Buddy, if you watch American news media with any level of knowledge about material reality you will be blown away by the level of deception, sensationalism, and servility to power. We all need to chill out when talking about foreign countries.

The difference is the access to information. In China the media you have access to is state-controlled so they control the narrative exactly how they want. You have very limited access to external news sources and media in general[1].

In the US at least you have a variety of different news channels that are everywhere from far left to far right. You can also access news sources from outside of the US that report on the US. Imagine if Fox News was the only news available in the US while Trump was president?

[1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_websites_blocked_in_ma...

Re: TSMC at the head of history’s tide: two high walls and one sharp knife

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Post by nitrogen »

tehjoker wrote: post #68
nomay wrote: post #22

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Coz Chinese people have been conditioned by a level censorship and media control unseen elsewhere, the resulting susceptibility to yummy and palatble disinformation is quite deep and prevalent, you may have read news about strong reaction about strange things from the west, you guessed it right there's alway legions of "self-media" behind it, it’s unfettered and state sanctioned algorithm-driven circlejerk machine, a…

Buddy, if you watch American news media with any level of knowledge about material reality you will be blown away by the level of deception, sensationalism, and servility to power. We all need to chill out when talking about foreign countries.

We all need to chill out when talking about foreign countries.

Alternatively, we all need to step up and say the same things about both home and abroad, and try to learn from and improve both.

Re: TSMC at the head of history’s tide: two high walls and one sharp knife

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Post by bee_rider »

rasz wrote: post #61

Taiwan population is around 24 million. It might be cheaper for US to offer to relocate whole country to the continental North America. Give everyone citizenship and free land, move TSMC to Texas. Make Taiwan island a huge military base.

Taiwan apparently stays between ~50F and ~100F, and the people are used to living near the coast. Putting them in Texas would be cruel. Although California has housing issues, transplanted Taiwan can be put on fresh soil -- no NIMBYs, and the housing development policy for Taiwan, CA can be written from the ground up to avoid previous mistakes.

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Post by chenhungh »

rasz wrote: post #61

Taiwan population is around 24 million. It might be cheaper for US to offer to relocate whole country to the continental North America. Give everyone citizenship and free land, move TSMC to Texas. Make Taiwan island a huge military base.

No, thank you. But no. No way.

Re: TSMC at the head of history’s tide: two high walls and one sharp knife

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Post by bee_rider »

chenhungh wrote: post #77
rasz wrote: post #61

Taiwan population is around 24 million. It might be cheaper for US to offer to relocate whole country to the continental North America. Give everyone citizenship and free land, move TSMC to Texas. Make Taiwan island a huge military base.

No, thank you. But no. No way.

Texas is a ridiculous idea, but how about Connecticut? Near the coast, comfortable 8-24C temperature range, not too far from the US education and business hubs.

Re: TSMC at the head of history’s tide: two high walls and one sharp knife

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Post by tehjoker »

minhazm wrote: post #72
tehjoker wrote: post #68

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Buddy, if you watch American news media with any level of knowledge about material reality you will be blown away by the level of deception, sensationalism, and servility to power. We all need to chill out when talking about foreign countries.

The difference is the access to information. In China the media you have access to is state-controlled so they control the narrative exactly how they want. You have very limited access to external news sources and media in general[1]. In the US at least you have a variety of different news channels that are everywhere from far left to far right. You can also access news sources from outside of the US that report on t…

The mainstream media in the US are all owned by capitalist corporations and are pro-capitalist. They represent a spectrum spanning from the far-right* (OANN) to the world right-of-center (MSNBC). The socialist and communist left nearly exclusively uses alternative distribution channels. Even centrist to social-democrats like Bernie Sanders are treated with scorn in US media.

US news is broadcast to the world as widely as possible to support the American empire's soft power projection. It also helps that they report on some news too.

* There are further right outlets in the world, but we're really getting up there these days. At least they're not outright monarchists (though supporting a presidential dictatorship by Donald Trump is getting close).

Re: TSMC at the head of history’s tide: two high walls and one sharp knife

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Post by mytailorisrich »

mikeyjk wrote: post #63
ohgodplsno wrote: post #56

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>If Ukraine disappears tomorrow, Western Europe will follow Ah yes, the dreaded invasion of Western Europe by Russia, with their 90% outdated tanks and planes that could be held back by a single major European army. A terrifying prospects that haunts every european at night.

Why the derision? Thousands died when Russia seized Crimea and kicked off skirmishes in Donbass.

Russia does not want and cannot invade (Western) Europe, and there is the slight issue of nuclear arsenals. I think the derision comes from that...
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