If anyone's looking for an Auth0 alternative, come check out WorkOS! It's like Stripe for enterprise features, including SSO/SAML, Directory/SCIM, and more. https://workos.com/docs (I'm the founder.) Edit: Here’s our launch last year: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=22607402
Okta to Acquire Auth0 for $6.5B
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Agreed, I found it hard to write integrations with Okta and ended up using Keycloak and integrating it as an OIDC client. I found Keycloak extremely easy to setup and work with.
I wish keycloak has smaller memory footprint so I can cram it in a small vps together with other small webapps. Other than that it's excellent.
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There are already true open source alternatives on the horizon such as https://github.com/ory It is about time for a new generation of identity systems in my opinion. This acquisition shows the risk of centralized, vendor locked-in services.
https://www.keycloak.org/ is another open source option. Compared to other choices, it's more mature and well-vetted because it forms the upstream for RedHat's SSO offering. On the other hand, it's a big monolithic Java app, but they are making some moves to be more CNF-friendly: https://www.keycloak.org/2020/12/first-keycloak-x-release.ad...
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#276It took me a couple of hours to get a Spring Boot application to use Auth0 as an IDP and for ID federation to AzureAD, Google, Apple, and a few other IDPs. The documentation and examples are very comprehensive, and I like how they really get the day to day problems faced by developers.
Getting anything working with Okta on the other hand took ages longer, to the point that we gave up on them to move to Auth0.
In all, this acquisition is bittersweet for me.
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So you're not fond of them? I have limited exposure. We use them at my place of work for 2fa for our VPN. And an organization we work with uses it for authentication. But I haven't had to use them in anything I've developed.
The idea of outsourced identity is just so contradictory it makes my blood pressure shoot up when people sincerely suggest it. I'll make an exception for Office 365 / AAD when an organization has already got their userbase added, but after that I'd wager if an org is big enough to need their own federated authX, then they're big enough to deploy IdentityServer and be done with it.
Re: Okta to Acquire Auth0 for $6.5B
#278Does anyone else think its a horrible idea to outsource your companies authentication? Where I work we are migrating to Okta, and it blows my mind that anyone thinks it is a good idea.
Re: Okta to Acquire Auth0 for $6.5B
#279I hope this gives rise to another, smaller viable party outside of Amazon, Google, and Microsoft. Perhaps I'm jaded, perhaps hopelessly biased - but I can only see this as a net negative. Okta's open source packages receive a pitiful amount of attention (for example: https://github.com/okta/okta-oidc-js/issues?q=is%3Aissue+is%... ) with forks almost becoming a requirement. Auth0 by contrast has been "on the ball" for…
Re: Okta to Acquire Auth0 for $6.5B
#280Off-the-shelf auth cost comparison • Okta: $20,000 / month • Auth0: $1,500+ / month • These are barebones services - any customization would cost extra • There is still a large implementation code when using these services
Auth0 was worth using for midsize companies sometimes. Okta is not.