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India’s new intermediary liability and digital media laws will harm the internet
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Re: India’s new intermediary liability and digital media laws will harm the internet
#62Only the largest social media companies will be able to comply with these laws. Assuming the summary isn't incorrect, these requirements are incredibly difficult to implement for small companies. Automated Filtering, Social Media User Verification, Traceability of Encrypted Content are all complex on both a technical & practical level. As I understand, setting up a basic mastodon instance or even just an IRC server c…
that's correct .. if you want to make a buck here.. comply ..if a drug company has regulations in each country of sale.. then so should digital media .. especially when news can be created and be produced and spread across to a similar effect in general population..
I am just another vegan internet consumer .. I want to know where my next batch of tofurkey is coming from !! so you know .. we can be sure that no jacks and joes were harmed during making of it !!
Re: India’s new intermediary liability and digital media laws will harm the internet
#63Yet another regressive move from a repressive party trying to have the cake and eat it too, with free market policies where it makes sense and a China style control with a single party where convenient. These laws are likely to be enforced against Big Tech but the real losers are going to be users.
your religion is a single party repressive move .. go and question your religion first ..
its so easy to see modi hate .. even on internet .. its always some puncturewala chuslim .. or a librandu ..
please stop ruining another civilization .. haven't you destroyed enough countries with your Islamic terrorism..
you idol breaking cultist .. go and leave us alone ..
Re: India’s new intermediary liability and digital media laws will harm the internet
#64Only the largest social media companies will be able to comply with these laws. Assuming the summary isn't incorrect, these requirements are incredibly difficult to implement for small companies. Automated Filtering, Social Media User Verification, Traceability of Encrypted Content are all complex on both a technical & practical level. As I understand, setting up a basic mastodon instance or even just an IRC server c…
> So now you have to wait 180 days for your information to really be removed. So much for privacy. It's also a bit weird in that it is exactly 180 days and not up to or at least which makes it a bit confusing in what its goal is.
"Up to 180 days" can result in data being deleted sooner. If data retention is a cost centre rather than a profit centre, the data will be deleted immediately.
"At least 180 days" can result in data never being deleted, for the same reasons as above.
180 days exactly gives the appearance that there's a balance that has been struck between data retention and privacy. Determining whether or not this is actually meaningful is dependent on what the data is used for, etc. and I don't have enough knowledge of the subject to make an educated guess.
Re: India’s new intermediary liability and digital media laws will harm the internet
#65Please ignore the trolls, ramblings, and especially the newly created accounts. The current ruling party in India has an IT cell that tries to shape opinions online irrespective of the platform.
Re: India’s new intermediary liability and digital media laws will harm the internet
#66This law is clearly made by people who know what they're demanding: instead of China's closed wall garden of internet, the ruling BJP party realizes they can have their cake and eat it as well. They want to allow multi-national corporations to exist in the country because removing them in the near future is going to cause a dent in their own operational policy. But rather, they clearly want to control these companies…
There's clearly a trend: the more people live in a country, the more paranoidal and authoritarian its rulers. They are afraid of their people and want more control. That's understandable.
This prompts the next question... what can those of us who don’t want this slide towards authoritarianism to continue, do about it?
Regardless of political/social viewpoints, I don’t think it matters if you consider your political views left, right, up, down, a, b or start... for the most part these views are compatible with free expression and “lowercase l” liberal democracy. Notwithstanding notable exceptions such as capital F Fascism or capital N Nazism, where being authoritarian is literally part of the political philosophy.
So how do we resist this trend? I’m not talking about rallies and counter-protesting, that won’t help shit when it’s happening in other countries. How do we make liberty and democracy better so that people want it enough to say no to the continuing pressure towards alternatives... ?
Re: India’s new intermediary liability and digital media laws will harm the internet
#67Please ignore the trolls, ramblings, and especially the newly created accounts. The current ruling party in India has an IT cell that tries to shape opinions online irrespective of the platform.
I can see dang holding his head the moment he saw another India thread hit the HN front page. :D
Re: India’s new intermediary liability and digital media laws will harm the internet
#68Earlier quoted context omitted.
But those are the "experts" from the West. They believe that censoring Trump was correct but a country who wants to save it's sovereignty is incorrect and should not happen. It goes against their narrative.
Champions of free expression wants to grant more power to Jack and his cohort than to the democratically elected Government because Governments are corrupt but Jack is not. How Ironic?
India's government is only nominally democratic and rapidly falling in freedom parameters looked at from any perspective. They are charging climate activists with sedition, holding protestors without charge for months, increase in extrajudicial killings and rapidly falling Human Development Indicators.
Re: India’s new intermediary liability and digital media laws will harm the internet
#69There is an odd trend in pieces submitted about india that spawns new accounts in support of whatever it is the india government is doing. I'm in the west so probably better to updoot someone from india that has better insight. This is just my observation. If what mozilla is saying is true this is a very obvious power grab that only applies to law abiding people. Internet protocols don't care about laws, you can try…
Hi... glad you found that.
I have personally faced the full brunt of Indian governments maniacal control over the internet. Since 5 August 2019 till February 2020 I had 0 internet. Then after that, only "whitelisted" websites of around 300. That number was gradually increased. High speed mobile internet was only started like last month so from March 2020 till say February 2021, around 8 million people had to endure 2g internet speeds. Why? Because they dont want dissent be heard. If noone cries wolf, "assume the wolf didnt come ".
For the last 2-3 years, WhatsApp news groups have been forced to get themselves "registered" with police. Aim being to stop flow of any news that does not work with the narrative of the government and punish those involved. I can show you people on twitter who after being humiliated and tortured by police for "instigating anti national sentiments" aka criticising the govt. I can share posts by journalists who have been harrassed and tortured because of their anti govt news just because they wrote ground reports.
Look up last years Pulitzer prize winning photo. That was from this place, a hooded guy, in the air with a stone in his hand in front of a police truck, David vs Goliath in real life. I have not seen anything more raw in a long time. Read about it how it was literally "smuggled out" because the govt does not want its crimes to be known.
Why am I boring you with these details? Well if I am forced to "verify" my identity everywhere, this means the govt has immediate access to this handle and my physical body because my phone is actively pinging my location. This means I can write a keyword the govt finds problematic and I will be picked up. This is not even an issue on WhatsApp or telegram or signal because your mobile number is the unique key and it works on that and I personally know people who have been picked up for sharing anti govt stuff on WhatsApp.
My hand is being forced to set up private invite only network of activitypub compatible services because then I will be sort of in control but even then its a problem because Indian ISPs like Jio have been using DPI for a long time to filter and control people but I have to try to stay alive
Re: India’s new intermediary liability and digital media laws will harm the internet
#70So many new accounts and flagged comments. Welcome IT Cell :) .