How can we make sure the products we're buying are Uighur labor free? I don't want to contribute to this.
Stop buying Chinese goods.
China's scheme to transfer Uighurs into work
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#42Earlier quoted context omitted.
Communism is cloaked in false promises and the US has failed to teach the youth this, so they are attracted to the lies that sell the ideology. You can also thank Bernie Sanders and AOC for repairing the brand of socialism with their incredibly harmful rhetoric
Yes, we all know that asking for health care is the same as opening up gulags. Jee whiz..
You don't understand, Bernie is the one saying health care is socialism. Obviously medicare for all isn't socialism, but Bernie is selling it as socialism and now the youths want actual socialism because they think Socialism is just free healthcare
See how that makes the word "socialist" which should cause a liberal to recoil similarly to "Nazi" sound safer? And don't forget Bernie supported Chavez, so it's not like he doesn't know what he's doing.
He's intentionally revitalizing the brand of socialism with stuff like healthcare (as many communist revolutionaries like Castro have done historically, they always promise free healthcare) to pave the way for the Chavez style Socialism he has always expressed admiration for
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#43> “Dr Adrian Zenz, a senior fellow at the Victims of Communism Memorial Foundation in Washington” Adrian Zenz again. Every. Time. https://thegrayzone.com/2021/02/18/us-media-reports-chinese-...
Every single negative BBC articles about China these days reference him, it's actually rather funny considering his track record and background. I don't know why they treat him as some sort of authoritative source about China when he can't even read Chinese and has never been to China.
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#44Is this article one of those super contentious things where people just downvote every comment even if you’re just saying innocuous things like “I wish we had objective facts”? Because I want objective facts, and the truth, in every situation including this one, is that really such a controversial take? What is going on here? Edit: yep, it’s a flame war with crazy idealogues on both sides saying things that don’t rea…
Every single discussion thread on this topic inevitably turns into a flame war.
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#45I somehow fear I will be downvoted for this, but the article highlights how it's very easy for these goods to end up in our supply chains without our knowledge: >The Huafu Textile Company is located on the edge of a grey industrial estate in the city of Huaibei, in China's eastern province of Anhui. > It was to this factory that Buzaynap, featured in the state-TV report, was sent > [ ...my own rather selective cut ..…
We need a "No China" label for goods with a certifying body, just like organic, kosher, etc.
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#46Earlier quoted context omitted.
Yes, we all know that asking for health care is the same as opening up gulags. Jee whiz..
You don't understand, Bernie is the one saying health care is socialism. Obviously medicare for all isn't socialism, but Bernie is selling it as socialism and now the youths want actual socialism because they think Socialism is just free healthcare See how that makes the word "socialist" which should cause a liberal to recoil similarly to "Nazi" sound safer? And don't forget Bernie supported Chavez, so it's not like…
Easy solution: do medicare for all with lots of pictures of eagles, apple pies and stuff.
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#47Earlier quoted context omitted.
But it did eventually lead to the break up of the USSR - without WW3 - rather than the Soviets taking over the world.
The Soviets were never in a position to overtake the world, and the idea that they were was a US misreading of the spread of communism and the influence of Soviet agitators - who showed up everywhere - as though they weren't doing exactly the same things the CIA were. The Vietnam war, for instance, was prosecuted entirely on the faulty assumption that a communist Vietnam was just going to become a subsumed extension…
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#48Disclosure: I am a Chinese (Han) and live in China for 40 years.
> A 2017 TV report from China's state broadcaster illustrates how the policy works in practice
This report's major source comes from a video broadcasted by CCTV (China's stated own central TV broadcaster), which means this video could not be a video describing any bad state policy logically. And I feel it is more about how you would like to explain what you see and it is highly subjective.
> The video has not featured in international reporting until now
CCTV is broadcasted nation wide and it is likely many foreigners living in China watched this as well, and it is very easy to obtain such a video, so no international reporting doesn't mean anything to hide.
I don't know exactly what happened there at that time but the article is far from convincing from my point of view.
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#49I somehow fear I will be downvoted for this, but the article highlights how it's very easy for these goods to end up in our supply chains without our knowledge: >The Huafu Textile Company is located on the edge of a grey industrial estate in the city of Huaibei, in China's eastern province of Anhui. > It was to this factory that Buzaynap, featured in the state-TV report, was sent > [ ...my own rather selective cut ..…
We need a "No China" label for goods with a certifying body, just like organic, kosher, etc.
"No Slave Labor" would be better, as China is not the only country with those particular "cultural differences".
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#50Earlier quoted context omitted.
Yes, we all know that asking for health care is the same as opening up gulags. Jee whiz..
You don't understand, Bernie is the one saying health care is socialism. Obviously medicare for all isn't socialism, but Bernie is selling it as socialism and now the youths want actual socialism because they think Socialism is just free healthcare See how that makes the word "socialist" which should cause a liberal to recoil similarly to "Nazi" sound safer? And don't forget Bernie supported Chavez, so it's not like…
Reading some speeches by Mao helped me to understand the meaning of "socialism" better. Communism is just the end goal that can only be achieved once humanity is "perfected". Socialism is the means of perfecting humanity in order to eventually achieve communism. We call it Communist China, but it never achieved communism in this sense and was always merely socialist, even under Mao. This article is similar to how Mao described communism: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Communist_society
If it helps anyone, communism is an eschatological state similar to the "New Heaven and New Earth" of Christianity, while socialism is the prelude to it, the "Thousand-Year Reign" of Christ.