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Okta to Acquire Auth0 for $6.5B

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Re: Okta to Acquire Auth0 for $6.5B

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> Okta, whose cloud software allows office workers to access all of their apps through a secure online service, said on Wednesday that it’s spending $6.5 billion to acquire rival Auth0. Okta’s shares plunged about 13% in extended trading after the announcement. Huh? Generally speaking, companies acquire other companies to become more valuable, not for their shares to go down . And even more so when the acquired compa…

I think it's actually quite common for the acquirer's share price to decrease following the announcement of an acquisition. (See e.g. this HBR article from 1999: https://hbr.org/1999/07/are-you-paying-too-much-for-that-acq....)

One simplified reason for why this occurs is that the management of a company is who decides whether to make an acquisition. That management might think it's in their interest (prestige, compensation, etc.) to lead a larger, more important company. One way they can do that is by acquiring a competitor, and they might even be willing to overpay to accomplish that goal. The board of the company, often appointed by management, doesn't provide true oversight of the management's decisions.

In other words, the incentives of management are misaligned with the incentives of investors.

Management's response to this theory might be that the market (investors) doesn't understand their business, and isn't properly valuing the acquisition.

I'm more sympathetic to the first view, but I believe there's research supporting both views.

Re: Okta to Acquire Auth0 for $6.5B

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More information on the ppt Auth0 200M ARR 50% Growth 120%+ Net Retention Rate https://investor.okta.com/static-files/83f1811e-2f92-4c08-a1... What a great acquisition. Congrats to both teams!

Really? $6.5B is over 32x their current run rate, and that's projected revenue, not actual profit.

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

I'm going to check it out again today because last eval I did with this requirement was ~10 months ago

Yeah there’s a tab for it in the latest docker images, although I’ve never configured it

It's there! Awesome. Thank you.

Re: Okta to Acquire Auth0 for $6.5B

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More information on the ppt Auth0 200M ARR 50% Growth 120%+ Net Retention Rate https://investor.okta.com/static-files/83f1811e-2f92-4c08-a1... What a great acquisition. Congrats to both teams!

Really? $6.5B is over 32x their current run rate, and that's projected revenue , not actual profit.

we are in a credit bubble after all

Re: Okta to Acquire Auth0 for $6.5B

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I hope this gives rise to another, smaller viable party outside of Amazon, Google, and Microsoft. Perhaps I'm jaded, perhaps hopelessly biased - but I can only see this as a net negative. Okta's open source packages receive a pitiful amount of attention (for example: https://github.com/okta/okta-oidc-js/issues?q=is%3Aissue+is%... ) with forks almost becoming a requirement. Auth0 by contrast has been "on the ball" for…

I also interviewed at Okta and one of the first interviewers started the session by insulting me. Like full stop, insulted me. I threw the rest of the interview and enjoyed the free lunch.

Do you mean a verbal insult, or some programming task he asked you to do that was far beneath your level?

Re: Okta to Acquire Auth0 for $6.5B

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If anyone's looking for an Auth0 alternative, come check out WorkOS! It's like Stripe for enterprise features, including SSO/SAML, Directory/SCIM, and more. https://workos.com/docs (I'm the founder.) Edit: Here’s our launch last year: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=22607402

This really looks amazing! I saw your post describing your product in relation to Auth0/Okta at https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=26070302 and it makes a ton of sense. Many (most?) enterprise-facing startups don't start out that way, and it's painful in practice (and in principle!) to be power-sold to "lift" your existing users into a solution like Auth0, just to accept SAML logins for new users. And pricing per c…

Yep, we can definitely support Auth0 as an IdP. It's a less common set up (versus IdPs like Okta or Azure AD) but still something we support.

Feel free to send me a note. (Or anyone reading this too!) I'm mg@workos.com

Re: Okta to Acquire Auth0 for $6.5B

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If anyone's looking for an Auth0 alternative, come check out WorkOS! It's like Stripe for enterprise features, including SSO/SAML, Directory/SCIM, and more. https://workos.com/docs (I'm the founder.) Edit: Here’s our launch last year: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=22607402

Had a quick look at your docs for integrating with Azure AD SAML https://workos.com/docs/integrations/azure-ad-saml and wondered why you don't make use of SAML metadata URLs that contain all this configuration? For example the signing certificates, ACS, Reply/ACS URL, EntityIDs are all in the metadata xml docs, so you could boil it down to: * Here's the SP metadata URL - upload it into Azure dashboard here ... * Grab…

We're planning to push all configuration to metadata endpoints for providers who support it. There are additional benefits for refreshing SAML certificates (usually every 5 years) and dynamically adapting to other attributes changing.

This will get added to our Admin Portal, which is a pre-built experience for IT admins to configure SSO connections: https://workos.com/docs/admin-portal/guide/introduction

Unfortunately the metadata URL configuration path isn't universally supported. I'm hoping FastFed solves this, but all that is still in working group / pre-RFC. https://openid.net/wg/fastfed/

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