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Re: Live feed of Starship SN10 flight test [video]

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Post by waiseristy »

NotSammyHagar wrote: post #44
jonplackett wrote: post #31

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I think they just wanted to give us a good show. "You liked the landing? Cool. Here's an explosion anyway."

From the non-vertical look after it landed, and the known weak landing legs, I am guessing it damaged the structure at the bottom. It doesn't seem like they actually plan to fly them more than once (once they make their objectives). Is that correct?

I think they have a bunch of upgrades for SN15, reflying the older prototypes might not have as much value opposed to just flying the new ones

Re: Live feed of Starship SN10 flight test [video]

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Post by breck »

dmix wrote: post #49
tectonic wrote: post #36

We just wrote a piece this morning in Orbital Index about the iteration speeds of SLS, New Glenn, and Starship. SpaceX is putting everyone else to shame. https://orbitalindex.com/archive/2021-03-03-Issue-106/#heavy... Reminds me of this quote from NASA Administrator Charles Bolden in 2014: "Let's be very honest again. We don't have a commercially available heavy lift vehicle. Falcon 9 Heavy may someday come about. It…

I love the ¶ paragraph indicators - Google says it's called Pilcrow? [1] - at the beginning of each section. It's a great typographic choice. Reminds me of those legal documents where they obsess about formatting and labelling the sections. And by they I mean usually the junior/intern staff at the law firms who are stuck in the 80s with paper and faxes. [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pilcrow

Ah, never knew what ¶ was called. Thanks for calling attention to the typography of that site. Neat stuff!

Re: Live feed of Starship SN10 flight test [video]

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Post by breck »

pmontra wrote: post #13

It did land, then exploded right now. There was a fire at the base of the SN10 and apparently got to the tank after a few minutes. 99% success. Next time for 100% hopefully.

Thank you for clarifying! I missed the live show, saw the explosion on Twitter, and was confused.

Re: Live feed of Starship SN10 flight test [video]

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Post by ncallaway »

drcross wrote: post #80
ceejayoz wrote: post #48

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Can we not? His achievements and things like his public fights with cave rescuers and the SEC are both public record and exhaustively discussed.

He who is without sin can cast the first stone.

Is your position that absolutely no one should be criticized for anything, because everybody is guilty of something?

I don't think that was the meaning of that verse.

Re: Live feed of Starship SN10 flight test [video]

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Post by outworlder »

thepasswordis wrote: post #63
fasteddie31003 wrote: post #34

Earlier quoted context omitted.

How is he lousy?

He's trying to make humanity a multiplanetary species while at the same time trying to get humanity off of fossil fuels by completely upending and dominating: 1) The space industry 2) The automotive industry 3) The solar industry 4) Some parts of the world's power grid infrastructure. He asks a LOT of his employees, and despite his companies being 15 years old at this point, asks for the type of commitment from emplo…

While I believe he truly wants to make humanity a multi planetary species, I doubt that's out of the goodness of his heart.

You can do this without being a shitty person. Or overworking your employees. This is a long term project.

Re: Live feed of Starship SN10 flight test [video]

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Post by chasd00 »

outworlder wrote: post #90
bmitc wrote: post #60

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> SpaceX's rapid iterations and fail fast methodology might save the human species Would you mind elaborating here? How will reaching a dead planet while we actively kill the literally perfect place for us to survive and foster save the human species, exactly? And how does a fail fast methodology fit in there?

Earth is a single point of failure.

Just want to say “earth is a single point of failure” beneath a schematic of starship would make a great spacex tshirt if it isn’t one already.

Re: Live feed of Starship SN10 flight test [video]

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Post by vkou »

bane wrote: post #89
bmitc wrote: post #60

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> SpaceX's rapid iterations and fail fast methodology might save the human species Would you mind elaborating here? How will reaching a dead planet while we actively kill the literally perfect place for us to survive and foster save the human species, exactly? And how does a fail fast methodology fit in there?

I'm sorry, a giant asteroid just hit the Earth and wiped out all life on the planet rendering your questions meaningless.

If you want to prepare for that eventuality, instead of wasting your time and money colonizing Mars, you should be spending your time and money on doing asteroid surveys, and working on deflection strategies. It's far cheaper, and will save billions of lives.

Your ROI from doing so is going to be a hell of a lot better.

In comparison to that, colonization is a science fiction fantasy, in search of a problem to solve.

Re: Live feed of Starship SN10 flight test [video]

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Post by bmitc »

dj_mc_merlin wrote: post #71
bmitc wrote: post #60

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> SpaceX's rapid iterations and fail fast methodology might save the human species Would you mind elaborating here? How will reaching a dead planet while we actively kill the literally perfect place for us to survive and foster save the human species, exactly? And how does a fail fast methodology fit in there?

1. One day we will need to leave Earth. Maybe sooner than later. Would you rather have a spacecraft or not when that becomes a need? 2. Many rare materials are common in space. Even if we do not leave Earth, being able to bring those to us would do a great deal. 3. What if we discover life through exploring the cosmos? 4. Nobody settled new lands the first time they sailed the ocean (at least not very successfully).…

> 1. One day we will need to leave Earth. Maybe sooner than later. Would you rather have a spacecraft or not when that becomes a need?

I don’t equate visiting another planet or planets with saving the human species. We have vast existential problems, mostly imposed by ourselves, right now on Earth. Let’s say we had a copy of Earth that we could travel to right now in a safe solar system with a healthy star. Is the human species saved? Are our problems solved? If we simply spread our cancerous way of life throughout the cosmos, I’m not sure I find that exciting. It would be much more exciting if we learn to be a sustainable acting and net positive species (in all the ways) while spreading in the cosmos. Getting to another planet is a very small part of all that. It’s exciting of course, but not the solve everything solution the parent and downvoters apparently think it is.

> 3. What if we discover life through exploring the cosmos?

That isn’t under discussion. How does that solve humanity’s problems? I am sure we will find life or evidence of it elsewhere.

> 5. Do you really not want to explore the universe? In the literal sense of the word?

That wasn’t a question I responded to or has anything to do with what I said.

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