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Re: Live feed of Starship SN10 flight test [video]

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Post by dj_mc_merlin »

bmitc wrote: post #60
lambda_dn wrote: post #30

NASA would have spent 2 trillion and 50 years to get to this stage. SpaceX's rapid iterations and fail fast methodology might save the human species

> SpaceX's rapid iterations and fail fast methodology might save the human species Would you mind elaborating here? How will reaching a dead planet while we actively kill the literally perfect place for us to survive and foster save the human species, exactly? And how does a fail fast methodology fit in there?

1. One day we will need to leave Earth. Maybe sooner than later. Would you rather have a spacecraft or not when that becomes a need?

2. Many rare materials are common in space. Even if we do not leave Earth, being able to bring those to us would do a great deal.

3. What if we discover life through exploring the cosmos?

4. Nobody settled new lands the first time they sailed the ocean (at least not very successfully). Give it a couple hundred years, maybe less, who knows?

5. Do you really not want to explore the universe? In the literal sense of the word?

Re: Live feed of Starship SN10 flight test [video]

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Post by woah »

bmitc wrote: post #60
lambda_dn wrote: post #30

NASA would have spent 2 trillion and 50 years to get to this stage. SpaceX's rapid iterations and fail fast methodology might save the human species

> SpaceX's rapid iterations and fail fast methodology might save the human species Would you mind elaborating here? How will reaching a dead planet while we actively kill the literally perfect place for us to survive and foster save the human species, exactly? And how does a fail fast methodology fit in there?

Learning to survive on mars will help our species learn how to survive on future earth

Re: Live feed of Starship SN10 flight test [video]

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Post by danpalmer »

bmitc wrote: post #60
lambda_dn wrote: post #30

NASA would have spent 2 trillion and 50 years to get to this stage. SpaceX's rapid iterations and fail fast methodology might save the human species

> SpaceX's rapid iterations and fail fast methodology might save the human species Would you mind elaborating here? How will reaching a dead planet while we actively kill the literally perfect place for us to survive and foster save the human species, exactly? And how does a fail fast methodology fit in there?

Elon Musk believes that it’s important for humanity to not be entirely dependent on Earth for its survival. Whether that’s because we destroy the planet, or an asteroid hits, or there’s a terrible virus and we can’t get people to wear masks, doesn’t really matter. The point is that having a second permanent home would make this far less likely to end the human race. It’s a very unlikely thing to happen, but it’s entirely catastrophic if it does, so an expected value calculation could be argued to show that it’s worth it.

As for not destroying the planet, that’s what his other big company is working on.

I’m not fully on board with his reasoning here, and don’t agree with many of his beliefs, but he is quite explicit and consistent about these reasonings and I don’t think it’s the worst outcome.

Re: Live feed of Starship SN10 flight test [video]

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Post by walrus01 »

themgt wrote: post #33
tppiotrowski wrote: post #32

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Can you share a link to the explosion? The Twitter video cut out with rocket intact.

https://twitter.com/spacex360/status/1367256299923247109

I bet they got good telemetry data from something in the upper part of the starship, after it got kicked up into the air, right until it crashed down again.

Re: Live feed of Starship SN10 flight test [video]

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Post by pengaru »

bmitc wrote: post #60
lambda_dn wrote: post #30

NASA would have spent 2 trillion and 50 years to get to this stage. SpaceX's rapid iterations and fail fast methodology might save the human species

> SpaceX's rapid iterations and fail fast methodology might save the human species Would you mind elaborating here? How will reaching a dead planet while we actively kill the literally perfect place for us to survive and foster save the human species, exactly? And how does a fail fast methodology fit in there?

Surviving extinction-level events like asteroid strikes likely requires an off-planet human civilization.

But I do share your concerns about humans neglecting their ideal habitat, and think we need to be careful about mistaking efforts like colonizing Mars as some kind of panacea abdicating any responsibility to clean up our act at home.

Re: Live feed of Starship SN10 flight test [video]

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Post by drcross »

ceejayoz wrote: post #48
fasteddie31003 wrote: post #34

Earlier quoted context omitted.

How is he lousy?

Can we not? His achievements and things like his public fights with cave rescuers and the SEC are both public record and exhaustively discussed.

He who is without sin can cast the first stone.
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