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Okta to Acquire Auth0 for $6.5B

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Re: Okta to Acquire Auth0 for $6.5B

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Azure Active Directory leaves much to be desired. If it was not a MS product it would struggle to attract a market.

How so? I'd argue they're far ahead of the competition in features.

Except for all the basics like RBAC with multiple roles, JWT modification, simple MFA, etc.

Re: Okta to Acquire Auth0 for $6.5B

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I know it doesn't cover everything Auth0 and Okta presumably provide, but Keycloak is OSS and has RedHat support, and is honestly one of the best IDPs I've ever used in terms of capabilities and friendliness. I know there's also the ory suite in the more cloud-native/recent space, though I can't personally speak to its maturity. Maybe I'm biased by the large bank I currently work at, but in general, it seems like IAM…

I’ve started using KeyCloak by default for my personal projects. Once you know how to integrate it and configure it, you never have to worry about users or roles again. I haven’t used the groups feature yet but I’m optimistic considering how easy Keycloak is to configure. Overall it’s a great tool to have in your tool belt.

Lack of webauthn might be a stopper for some, but it's in the pipeline:

https://github.com/keycloak/keycloak-community/blob/master/d...

Re: Okta to Acquire Auth0 for $6.5B

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How does one migrate your users away from Auth0 seamlessly as possible (when you’re using their Database connection)? I seem to recall something about raising a ticket for an export including the hashes?

You can export everything via a support ticket. We have migration scripts you can use if you come over to FusionAuth or tweak them for any other platforms as well:

https://github.com/FusionAuth/fusionauth-import-scripts

Re: Okta to Acquire Auth0 for $6.5B

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Thanks for the mention. We already do see quite a few Auth0 converts. I expect to gain a lot of new customers as a result of this merger in the coming months. No complaints here.

Hey Dan, curious: why it's so difficult to figure out who is behind the company from the website?

We are working on that. Our new website will include a ton of information about the company, our executive team, and our culture. Stay tuned!

You can check out my LI profile for now though ;)

https://www.linkedin.com/in/voidmain/

Re: Okta to Acquire Auth0 for $6.5B

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Oh my, I hope the Auth0 free tier doesn't change because I just built out an integration with them for a project. Oh well, the end game was always to build my own auth, just... later, because it's such an annoying mountain of work.

Re: Okta to Acquire Auth0 for $6.5B

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$6,500,000,000.00 for a company providing authentication APIs? Am I the only person left on earth that hasn't lost his mind?

I'm in the same boat and I use okta for work and have no clue what the hell it does or why this just can't be accomplished using open source.

Re: Okta to Acquire Auth0 for $6.5B

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Thanks for the mention. We already do see quite a few Auth0 converts. I expect to gain a lot of new customers as a result of this merger in the coming months. No complaints here.

Hey Dan, curious: why it's so difficult to figure out who is behind the company from the website?

Hiya,

I can't speak for robotdan, but am also an employee.

My opinion: we have been so busy heads down building things we haven't put together an about us page.

https://www.linkedin.com/company/fusionauth/ is pretty transparent about who works there, though.

HTH.

Re: Okta to Acquire Auth0 for $6.5B

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I’ve started using KeyCloak by default for my personal projects. Once you know how to integrate it and configure it, you never have to worry about users or roles again. I haven’t used the groups feature yet but I’m optimistic considering how easy Keycloak is to configure. Overall it’s a great tool to have in your tool belt.

Lack of webauthn might be a stopper for some, but it's in the pipeline: https://github.com/keycloak/keycloak-community/blob/master/d...

Huh, I'm pretty sure it's present by default (not behind a flag) in current versions of Keycloak - would have liked to use it but our setup is so heavily firewalled tokens wouldn't make it over ;)

Re: Okta to Acquire Auth0 for $6.5B

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If anyone's looking for an Auth0 alternative, come check out WorkOS! It's like Stripe for enterprise features, including SSO/SAML, Directory/SCIM, and more. https://workos.com/docs (I'm the founder.) Edit: Here’s our launch last year: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=22607402

This really looks amazing! I saw your post describing your product in relation to Auth0/Okta at https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=26070302 and it makes a ton of sense. Many (most?) enterprise-facing startups don't start out that way, and it's painful in practice (and in principle!) to be power-sold to "lift" your existing users into a solution like Auth0, just to accept SAML logins for new users. And pricing per connection is infinitely more justifiable than pricing per user, especially in that context, especially with today's acquisition removing any downwards price pressure on that per-user pricing!!!

I might reach out to you with some questions about our use cases - we're in early conversations with an enterprise client who uses Auth0 for their user management, and ideally we'd be able to use their Auth0 as an IDP for SSO into our existing Django application. Would also love to pick your brain on potential solutions for B2B2C use cases - your Admin Portal concept reminds me very much of a page I've written far too often in the past :) Feel free to reach me as well at btown.hn@gmail.com.

Re: Okta to Acquire Auth0 for $6.5B

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post #73

If anyone's looking for an Auth0 alternative, come check out WorkOS! It's like Stripe for enterprise features, including SSO/SAML, Directory/SCIM, and more. https://workos.com/docs (I'm the founder.) Edit: Here’s our launch last year: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=22607402

Had a quick look at your docs for integrating with Azure AD SAML https://workos.com/docs/integrations/azure-ad-saml and wondered why you don't make use of SAML metadata URLs that contain all this configuration? For example the signing certificates, ACS, Reply/ACS URL, EntityIDs are all in the metadata xml docs, so you could boil it down to:

* Here's the SP metadata URL - upload it into Azure dashboard here ...

* Grab the "App Federation metadata URL" from the Azure dashboard and paste it into WorkOS here ... (where your app can parse the XML and grab certs, URLs etc)

And you're done.

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