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Killing TurboTax

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Re: Killing TurboTax

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I gotta say I have a love-hate thing with Turbotax. I hate the company and its influence peddling, lobbying, and near monopoly status, but Turbotax itself is a very well designed product with a great intuitive experience that has done a great job filing taxes. So it's a rare case of a sleazy state-sanctioned (via refusal to simplify the tax code) monopoly with a decent product. Usually such monopolies have complete s…

Try freetaxusa.com. Its interface is just as easy but it's free.

Re: Killing TurboTax

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You're paying for a service that should be provided for free by the IRS, as happens in many other developed countries. It's unnecessary financial drag on the economy.

>You're paying for a service that should be provided for free by the IRS, as happens in many other developed countries. But Turbotax is free for 1040EZ filers. It's only in an instance where you would otherwise just hire a tax accountant that they charge you. In terms of SAAS pricing, it comes out to like $15/month annualized. It's a bargain IMO.

It's unacceptable to argue that it should be free for some, but not for everyone. It's not a bargain, it's unnecessary regulatory capture, for what my government should be providing at no cost to all citizens who are required to file returns.

Private electronic tax filing systems (and the fees they charge) should not exist.

Re: Killing TurboTax

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What exactly does everyone have against Turbotax? I use it every year and I love it. Sure I could save a hundred bucks and spend hours filling out IRS worksheets, but I don't want to. They have excellent UX, and serve as a reliable secure cloud repository for all of my financial information. What's the big deal?

They lobby to make taxes complicated and to prevent the government from doing part of what you’re currently paying for, for free.

Re: Killing TurboTax

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Barriers to entry.

But it has been acquiring companies, as mentioned in the article. Why didn't those companies face a barrier to entry? Or if they did and it wasn't binding why is it apparently binding to other up and comers?

Did you read the article? None of them ever seriously threatened TurboTax as a whole, they were just trying to carve out tiny niches that weren't already under the Borg. They were assimilated.

Re: Killing TurboTax

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I gotta say I have a love-hate thing with Turbotax. I hate the company and its influence peddling, lobbying, and near monopoly status, but Turbotax itself is a very well designed product with a great intuitive experience that has done a great job filing taxes. So it's a rare case of a sleazy state-sanctioned (via refusal to simplify the tax code) monopoly with a decent product. Usually such monopolies have complete s…

That's odd, I consistently have problems with it. It's fine if you add some W2s and work straight through to filing. But navigating back and forth through different sections never behaves the way I'd expect.

Things like brokerage transaction imports were simply broken while I was trying to file last year (which, incidentally, is the only reason I pay for it).

And their "UIs" for dealing with forms like K1s are often more confusing (to me at least) than the underlying IRS form.

Re: Killing TurboTax

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What exactly does everyone have against Turbotax? I use it every year and I love it. Sure I could save a hundred bucks and spend hours filling out IRS worksheets, but I don't want to. They have excellent UX, and serve as a reliable secure cloud repository for all of my financial information. What's the big deal?

In some countries the government calculates the (simple compared to US) taxes and all you do is approve it. That would be possible here too for most people, but neither politicians (of various stripes) or Intuit wants anything to change. Only the US turns paying taxes into the equivalent of Quantum Mechanics.

Re: Killing TurboTax

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I gotta say I have a love-hate thing with Turbotax. I hate the company and its influence peddling, lobbying, and near monopoly status, but Turbotax itself is a very well designed product with a great intuitive experience that has done a great job filing taxes. So it's a rare case of a sleazy state-sanctioned (via refusal to simplify the tax code) monopoly with a decent product. Usually such monopolies have complete s…

TurboTax works great, until things get a little too complicated, and it quickly becomes terrible. What is needed is a strongly typed DSL where you can copy and paste your entire tax return as a single text document/spreadsheet.

If all you have is a hammer...

Re: Killing TurboTax

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This has already been done successfully in Canada. A small team from Vancouver built a pay-what-you-want web-based tax-filing system from scratch. It's called SimpleTax and it's already a major competitor to the Canadian version of TurboTax. In fact, it was so successful that it was recently acquired by Canadian investment group WealthSimple.

Re: Killing TurboTax

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What exactly does everyone have against Turbotax? I use it every year and I love it. Sure I could save a hundred bucks and spend hours filling out IRS worksheets, but I don't want to. They have excellent UX, and serve as a reliable secure cloud repository for all of my financial information. What's the big deal?

The big deal is that all the functionality of TurboTax could/should be available for free (as is done - in some form - in other countries).

And we all know how wonderful and easy to use government built software is.
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