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Why are fewer young adults having casual sex?

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Re: Why are fewer young adults having casual sex?

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No mention of any cultural shifts or changing attitudes, as if young people having casual sex was just the natural state of civilization and not something that became celebrated and artificially encouraged via the media in the last half-century. Tinder and other online dating options are pretty bleak and inherently extractive in nature, so I find it equally plausible that many young people are simply turned off from…

Young people having casual sex is the natural state of not just civilization, but the entire human species.

Re: Why are fewer young adults having casual sex?

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The key is more people forced to live with parents this doesn't just effect young people 78% of GenX are still forced to live at home. We have a society that is profoundly broken in so many ways.

> profoundly broken Well, it's different than they way it was when I grew up, but I don't know if kids living with their parents necessarily indicates a "broken" society: humans more or less lived that way for millenia successfully until around the time of the industrial revolution.

And still do in most of the world outside of the lone-wolf United States.

Re: Why are fewer young adults having casual sex?

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Entertainment and porn these days are more accessible and higher quality than they ever were.

Great. Now all I can think about is the Matrix human pods playing the pornhub theme as they close.

i'm all for it as long as it enables us to stop consuming every last drop of life on this planet

Re: Why are fewer young adults having casual sex?

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I wonder if there's a connection to obesity, and the increase of obesity in young adults. See: https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC5621592/ > Not all social influences are positive, however, and overweight young adults in particular are susceptible to the negative effects of weight-related bias [76]. Data indicate that overweight young adults are judged by others to be less likable [77] and less suitable sex…

That makes me think of the Seinfeld episode where he says only 5% of the population is good looking and 95% are undate-able.

Re: Why are fewer young adults having casual sex?

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"Disrupting" a space too often means creating a shitty, tokenized, empty version of it that's so easy it replaces the more difficult and nuanced real thing. I can't imagine a better world where sex is a pornhub search and socialization is a gaming PC - but it looks like that's the path we're on.

people suck. embrace your inner misanthrope and avoid them as much as possible

Re: Why are fewer young adults having casual sex?

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Modern casual sexual encounters are assessed purely on subjective ratings of the opposite party's sexual attractiveness (secondary sexual characteristics, behavior, social status, etc.). Furthermore, constant saturation into the full range of these behaviors and characteristics across humanity through the internet and dating applications creates a endless "could I get a better mate?" feedback loop in the minds of both men and women. You're no longer competing within a social group, you're competing within every social group.

Notice that the per the article, the population of "sexless" men has grown nearly three times as much as the population of sexless women. Fewer men are having more sex; it's practically on-demand for them, and they are usually tremendous specimens when compared to other men.

If you are not aware of this, I would bet that you do not know any men who are on the "winning" side of the new dating economy. If you do know men like this and you disagree with me, please elaborate.

I have heard a great deal of insight into "the dating market" ranging from the perspective of attractive athletes (both male and female) to the perspective of unattractive nerds (both male and female) and this pattern is clearly visible through their stories. The women tend to retreat from casual sex because they don't want it (and not only because the pickings are subjectively slim, but also because the expectations for them to 'put out' are very high); the men tend to retreat from casual sex because they can't have it.

Re: Why are fewer young adults having casual sex?

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We came of age in an era when HIV / AIDS was finally acknowledged and taken seriously by society, and recognized as something that could affect anybody. I think the attention placed on STDs during our Sex Ed classes may have something to do with it. Learning about the horrible things that could happen to you through casual sex (with grotesque accompanying photos!) was a major part of our curriculum. And we were taugh…

I am going to push back on this one super hard. yes you should take STD's seriously but to use STD's as your reasoning for not having Casual Sex is the opposite of how you should be handling this. What we need is proper education about protection, risks, and just sex in general not making people afraid of sex! You could just as easily get an STD from the first time you have sex after a date as you could with Casual S…

I’m not suggesting that this fear is part of conscious reasoning.

Re: Why are fewer young adults having casual sex?

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post #12

The key is more people forced to live with parents this doesn't just effect young people 78% of GenX are still forced to live at home. We have a society that is profoundly broken in so many ways.

Gen X is people born between '65 and '80. You're saying that 78% of people, presumably in the US, who are currently between 41 and 56 are living with their parents?

52% of adults aged 18 to 29 live at home, the most since the great depression, according to this:

https://www.pewresearch.org/fact-tank/2020/09/04/a-majority-...

Re: Why are fewer young adults having casual sex?

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Dating apps suggest that a small group are having more sex and a larger group less sex. It’s the distribution of sex, not the amount. Technology has enabled the upper echelons of desirable men to sleep with many desirable women, and those down the pecking order are content with porn/toys, instead of settling for anyone other than the prized upper echelon. It’s not just the technology but the social change that result…

It’s extremely telling that you don’t bother to consider this from a woman’s POV, as though sex is some sort of fungible good to be distributed amongst men rather than something that results from two or more people expressing their agency. This is a deeply toxic set of assumptions that has its roots in the deeply misogynistic Incel culture.

Everything viewed through statistics takes the emotion and human element out of it.

This is statistically accurate analysis from dating sites and also the above article. It's not really something that's an opinion.

Much like how Americans are Obese due to readily available junk food, women have become less interested in the less attractive men.

Humans are more primitive than you would like to think.

Re: Why are fewer young adults having casual sex?

#50

No mention of any cultural shifts or changing attitudes, as if young people having casual sex was just the natural state of civilization and not something that became celebrated and artificially encouraged via the media in the last half-century. Tinder and other online dating options are pretty bleak and inherently extractive in nature, so I find it equally plausible that many young people are simply turned off from…

Young people having casual sex is the natural state of not just civilization, but the entire human species.

No, not really. The modern western form of treating sex primarily as an entertainment activity is very much a new thing. Previously we had marriage and other cultural practices that aimed to channel these forces in productive directions. Now we just have PornHub and Tinder.
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