I feel strongly that people should eat based on their blood type. For example O type appear to do best with a meat based diet. Blood type A should eat more plant based diet. Human bodies are N+1, each body is different, there is not one diet to rule them all. Please be mindful of what you are eating and how it makes you feel. Get in touch with your unconscious and body.
Meat consumption and risk of 25 conditions: outcome-wide analyses of 475K people
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#192So, eat red meat for the iron, but not so much it makes you fat (and sick).
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#193Earlier quoted context omitted.
>> These studies are quick to point to conclusions. Remember that time where every "scientific" study pointed at fat as the big culprit behind heart problems? When it was sugar all along? I mean there is just insurmountable evidence that fat is correlated to heart disease. What is so ironic is that some journalists with no medical backgrounds write a book about "The Big Fat Lie" and now it is sugar that is the cause…
What is wrong was the immediate jump from "Fat in organs is the fat we eat from food". It seemed a natural and simple explanation at the time. Now it appears it's not that clear. It's the excess of sugar in everything that overloads your bodies temporary stores of glycogen in the muscles and liver, which is then stored as fat, since your body can easily transform sugars into fats. To see how that looks you can track…
Did people really believe that dietary fat was stored by the body without any kind of biological processing?
If you examine it from a thermodynamic perspective (I know that is simplistic for human biology), weight for weight fat has double the energy density of sugar, 38 MJ/kg vs 17 MJ/kg according to [0]. For reference, gasoline and diesel fuel are around 45 - 48 MJ/kg.
Also, according to [1], dietary fats are broken down to generate acetyl-CoA which is the precursor for lipogenesis (fat storage), therefore eating fat does not necessarily make you fat but consuming a lot of it and not metabolising it to do work will make it easier for you body to store fat.
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#194I am sceptical due to this:
and most of the positive associations observed for meat consumption and health risks were substantially attenuated after adjustment for body mass index (BMI).
I didnt read all the details, but that seems like a sneaky way to invalidate the benefits of eating meat. If sounds like the benefits correlate with low BMI, so they want to dismiss them. But what if eating meat helps one to maintain a low BMI? Suddenly the picture is cloudy.
As for heart disease, there is always the iodine rabbit experiment from the 1930s.
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#195Let's follow the money. Said "scientific study" is funded by Wellcome. An arm of WHO, unelected crisis manufacturer supreme. On wellcome's site: "Reducing meat intake, particularly in the USA where meat consumption is highest, should be a global priority." Show me the incentives and I'll show you the outcome.
I don't get the unhealthy obsession with "unelected" in some people. A proper -mediocracy- meritocracy (i.e. it's actual skills and qualification that counts) is preferable over any kind of popularity contest. That's not to say the WHO in particular works by this standard, I just find it very irritating if people insist on every position or institution - especially very specialised ones - being subject to elections.…
Based. The soys at HN obviously downvote like crazy.
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#196I’m interested in seeing what kind of research gets released once we find out how cheap it is to make bug patties from harvesting locust swarms.
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#197Earlier quoted context omitted.
Studies like this are published for political reasons, not scientific reasons. I wouldn't be surprised if the Bill and Melinda Gates foundation is behind this study.
The study’s funding is included in the study: Funding This work was supported by the Wellcome Trust, Our Planet Our Health (Livestock, Environment and People - LEAP) [grant number 205212/Z/16/Z]; Cancer Research UK [grant numbers C8211/A19170 and C8211/A29017]; and the UK Medical Research Council [grant number MR/M012190/1]. AP-C is supported by a Cancer Research UK Population Research Fellowship [grant number C60192…
Actually, looks like the Gateses have in the past funded the Wellcome Trust.
https://www.gatesfoundation.org/How-We-Work/Quick-Links/Gran...
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#198I don't know what it is about diet research but it seems to really bring out strong opinions on hackernews. Given that we're the target market for Soylent I guess it makes sense.
In some forums, when you want to post something about body-building,training or what to eat, you also have to post your body picture. Keep that in mind whenever you hear opinions about food.
That's a great point. Let's do a real study with real people and real diets, collect their blood type, an auto immune disorders, any allergies or food intolerance. Bundle that with a relevant body photo.
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#199Earlier quoted context omitted.
When it was sugar all along? Er no, people were told to stop eating fat but of course they didn't and average calorie intake went up in all categories. Sugar intake in the US peaked years ago but Americans are fatter than ever. Chicken and cheese consumption is through the roof. Like the article says, being overweight is very unhealthy and almost any diet that keeps you from gaining weight is going to reduce your ris…
Just replying to your last point: sugar and carbohydrates make you fat more than anything else. To fix that, most successful diets rely on increasing the ratio of protein you eat (wether it's fish, meat or poultry). It gets you to the same satiety but eating less carbs, and you lose weight. Now enter plant based / animal free diets, how are people gonna get to satiety without all that dense meat / fish / chicken? If…
Fat has 9 calories per gram. Carbohydrates and protein have 4. The problem is that we strip all the fiber away from the carbs we eat and this causes all kind of problems including making them less satiating. Getting fat eating whole carbs is quite difficult. Refined carbs and sugar are bad but the idea that all carbs are bad is simplistic and wrong.
Legumes in particular are extremely filling: https://www.azumio.com/blog/nutrition/beans-skinny-food
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#200Earlier quoted context omitted.
Eating more calories than you burn make you overweight. Not the type of calorie. This has been proven (wish I could find the research paper) and was funded by Gary Taubes' research group. Refined sugar and carbs are high in calories and low in nutrients. If you eat 2000 (or appropriate for you expenditure) calories of brocoli, you ain't getting overweight. Additionally, most people are addicted to sugar and refined c…
I’ve had terrible gastrointestinal issues for years that had been getting worse and worse, and after so many doctors telling me to just take PPI at 34 (which increase risk of dementia!), I’ve finally dropped 40 pounds by eating whole foods, no grains, mostly meat, as much as I want. I am completely off all antacid medications and blood pressure medicines. It turns out a huge amount of the depression and anxiety I’ve…
You might have a disrupted gut microbiome. People that report the kind of results you describe often have gut flora that are way out of whack. You might want to look into a SIBO test because in the long run a diet very high in meat is also inflammatory and not ideal.