China's scheme to transfer Uighurs into work
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#2I somehow fear I will be downvoted for this, but the article highlights how it's very easy for these goods to end up in our supply chains without our knowledge:
>The Huafu Textile Company is located on the edge of a grey industrial estate in the city of Huaibei, in China's eastern province of Anhui.
> It was to this factory that Buzaynap, featured in the state-TV report, was sent
> [...my own rather selective cut...]
> Amazon told the BBC that it does not tolerate the use of forced labour and that where it finds products that do not meet its supply chain standards, it removes them from sale.
I for one wish it were easier to not buy products from China as a whole. With some things -- food, for example -- it's very easy. With others -- electronics or consumer goods -- it is almost literally impossible. It's quite apparent that they've engaged in an ideologically driven purge of the Uighur culture (much like a concomitant "reforming" of Hong Kong's) -- there's just too much independent evidence to suppress that hypothesis.
If the coronavirus pandemic has shown us anything, it's that we need to be able to be a bit more self-sufficient and (for all nations!) having a national manufacturing base able to make certain goods is a sensible idea. I know that economics ultimately stopped the Soviet state machine from rolling over the civil rights of its populace to quite the extent that it once did; I don't know what that tells us here.
Re: China's scheme to transfer Uighurs into work
#3How can we make sure the products we're buying are Uighur labor free? I don't want to contribute to this.
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#4I somehow fear I will be downvoted for this, but the article highlights how it's very easy for these goods to end up in our supply chains without our knowledge: >The Huafu Textile Company is located on the edge of a grey industrial estate in the city of Huaibei, in China's eastern province of Anhui. > It was to this factory that Buzaynap, featured in the state-TV report, was sent > [ ...my own rather selective cut ..…
It did not stop Stalin and his Red Terror.
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#5> China's policy of transferring hundreds of thousands of Uighurs and other ethnic minorities in Xinjiang to new jobs often far from home is leading to a thinning out of their populations, according to a high-level Chinese study seen by the BBC.
Funny story, this has been going on for decades as a pro-Uighur economic development campaign. Lots of migrant labor in China in general, and it's not always easy to get permission to move to where the jobs are under the hukou system. It's actually a great economic opportunity.
Notice that there's no actual reference to anyone being forced to do anything. They just imply it by working in statements that are against the general concept of forced labor.
Re: China's scheme to transfer Uighurs into work
#6I somehow fear I will be downvoted for this, but the article highlights how it's very easy for these goods to end up in our supply chains without our knowledge: >The Huafu Textile Company is located on the edge of a grey industrial estate in the city of Huaibei, in China's eastern province of Anhui. > It was to this factory that Buzaynap, featured in the state-TV report, was sent > [ ...my own rather selective cut ..…
It did not stop Stalin and his Red Terror.
You'd need to speak to a proper historian, but in my reading of sources about it it seems we already have a much better understanding of what the Chinese are doing than contemporaries of the Terror did.
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Re: China's scheme to transfer Uighurs into work
#8I somehow fear I will be downvoted for this, but the article highlights how it's very easy for these goods to end up in our supply chains without our knowledge: >The Huafu Textile Company is located on the edge of a grey industrial estate in the city of Huaibei, in China's eastern province of Anhui. > It was to this factory that Buzaynap, featured in the state-TV report, was sent > [ ...my own rather selective cut ..…
It did not stop Stalin and his Red Terror.
But it did eventually lead to the break up of the USSR - without WW3 - rather than the Soviets taking over the world.
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#9How can we make sure the products we're buying are Uighur labor free? I don't want to contribute to this.
If you're serious about it then assume you can't be sure and plan your purchases around that.
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#10China is not innocent by any means, but I sense some hypocrisy from those that arrogantly think they have a higher moral ground here. Pretty much every country has their own "Trail of Tears", even the progressive and almighty Canada only closed their oppressive Indian Residence school systems recently.
Are we supposed to boycott everyone then, and go back to hunting and gathering?