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Re: Beyond Meat signs global supply deals with McDonald’s, KFC and Pizza Hut

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Post by La1n »

buckthundaz wrote: post #391
mft_ wrote: post #288

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Really? There's a body of evidence that a meat-containing diet is protective against heart disease, type-2 diabetes, high blood pressure, and cancer, versus a plant-based diet ? I'd genuinely be very interested for those sources to be shared, please...

https://academic.oup.com/ajcn/article/78/4/734/4690022?login... https://www.healthline.com/health/diabetes/carnivore-diet-fo...

That first study compares to meat-containing diets with each other, see the methods section.

edit: I also have some doubts on the care taken in this study and it's peer-review. As there is an easy to spot mistake in table 2 (the dietary fat section).

Re: Beyond Meat signs global supply deals with McDonald’s, KFC and Pizza Hut

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Post by m4tthumphrey »

redisman wrote: post #385
m4tthumphrey wrote: post #76

I stopped eating meat in January 2018 and I can honestly say the only thing I miss is a Big Mac! This is VERY good news for me and a long overdue! That being said, whilst I do love a Beyond burger, here in the UK, I was surprised to hear it was Beyond that McDonalds selected for this. While in Orlando 2 years ago, I tried an Impossible burger for the first time and it was incredible. The size, texture and taste would…

I tried a Big Mac recently and it's really not that great, pretty dry. The sauce is the amazing part. I prefer getting a Impossible burger from a slightly more expensive burger place instead now. Maybe I just need to buy a gallon of that sauce and pour it on there.

Its definitely the sauce and pickles etc, but for me the draw for McDonalds was the theatre and nostalgia from my childhood, mixed with the convenience. And of course, add in the fact that I used to have an extra hamburger and 10 McNuggets as standard made it all the more enticing!

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Post by arnoooooo »

twobitshifter wrote: post #214
mikepurvis wrote: post #34

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> large mammal farts going on now is probably not that much higher than it always has been I believe a big part of it has to do with the feedlot diet— when they're eating a high-calorie diet of mostly corn/grain instead of their natural diet of grass, it puts their digestive system into overdrive. EDIT: I looked into it a bit more after posting this, and it looks like it's not clear-cut— for example, it takes a cow a…

The corn consumed by cattle includes the corn stalks which are more or less the same as consuming grass. Corn is after all in the grass family. The actual kernels of corn increase the calories versus grass, but it’s not like cows are just eating corn off the cob all day long. They need to consume tons of roughage to help with their digestion. I think a good argument is that converting grain and grass to beef is ineff…

It's also that there's no ecosystem in factory farming. There are methane consuming bacteria in meadows.

Re: Beyond Meat signs global supply deals with McDonald’s, KFC and Pizza Hut

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Post by adrianN »

elktea wrote: post #59
drewg123 wrote: post #2

This is the best news I've heard all week. The more widely vegan "meat" is available, the more likely it is to be adopted by average people and not just dedicated vegans. Reducing the demand for real beef is probably one of the best things we can do in the short term for the environment, due to the amount of land required for cattle farming, and due to the surprising amount of methane emitted by cattle. (see the docu…

The popular crusade against meat is one of the more misguided. Meat provides far more nutritional value than any plant and the environmental impacts have been greatly exaggerated. See below: Regarding carbon: "removal of livestock in the US would only lead to a net GHG reduction of 2.6% in national emissions. Similarly, removing all dairy would lead to a reduction of just 0.7%. At the same time, both transitions woul…

A bit of meat is probably a valuable part of a balanced diet. But the average American eats nearly 100kg per year. That's a lot. You don't need to become a Vegan to cut that in half. You can eat a quarter pounder with cheese every day and still only consume 40kg of meat per year.

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Post by numpad0 »

uxcolumbo wrote: post #476
gonehome wrote: post #353

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I'm not perfect, I probably shouldn't eat fish either. Maybe I'll stop at some point. Just because you don't do something perfectly doesn't mean it's not worth doing at all.

Thanks for cutting back. The gradual approach is better than trying to change overnight. Veganism is pragmatic, not dogmatic.

When there’s a hierarchy of “legged animals >> fish > plants”, it is dogmatic.

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Post by otabdeveloper4 »

drewg123 wrote: post #2

This is the best news I've heard all week. The more widely vegan "meat" is available, the more likely it is to be adopted by average people and not just dedicated vegans. Reducing the demand for real beef is probably one of the best things we can do in the short term for the environment, due to the amount of land required for cattle farming, and due to the surprising amount of methane emitted by cattle. (see the docu…

Beef is a net positive for the environment while "vegan" mass-produced cash crops are a net negative.

Beef can (and does) graze on natural pastures that would have been otherwise ruined and turned into something useless.

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Post by perfunctory »

otabdeveloper4 wrote: post #757
drewg123 wrote: post #2

This is the best news I've heard all week. The more widely vegan "meat" is available, the more likely it is to be adopted by average people and not just dedicated vegans. Reducing the demand for real beef is probably one of the best things we can do in the short term for the environment, due to the amount of land required for cattle farming, and due to the surprising amount of methane emitted by cattle. (see the docu…

Beef is a net positive for the environment while "vegan" mass-produced cash crops are a net negative. Beef can (and does) graze on natural pastures that would have been otherwise ruined and turned into something useless.

If only we ate grass fed beef exclusively. Unfortunately this is not the case.

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Post by DrBazza »

abalone wrote: post #604
DamnYuppie wrote: post #27

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I truly don't understand the methane issue. Historically worldwide the # of ungulates is probably well below historical averages. It looks like today we have around 98 million head of cattle in the US. Historically we had bison in excess of conservatively 60 million. This doesn't even begin to count all the animals in Africa. Overall wide life is declining. https://www.statista.com/statistics/194297/total-number-of-c…

This is so misinformed. Much cattle production is in South America yet you cite only US figures which is less than 10% of headcount.[1] Even the US bison figures you cite predate the massive rise in industrial CO2 emissions, greatly reducing our budget. And you claim “wild life” is declining without sources — commercial cattle still number > 1B worldwide. > One item worth noting is that the decline in U.S. inventory…

Don't forget the human race also nicely made extinct a whole bunch of mega fauna around in the world. In South America, for example, toxodons, which were the most common ungulate.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_South_American_animals...

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Post by [deleted] »

cat199 wrote: post #615
jimktrains2 wrote: post #69

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> Countries around the world have culinary traditions older than America itself. Many of these traditional preparations of various cuts of meat are a huge part of culture and history. Many of these traditions include "new world" ingredients such as tomatoes, potatoes, bell peppers, corn, squash, some beans, &c that wouldn't become common in europe or asia until the 16th or 17th century. While still older than the fou…

> Noöne who is Noöne? never heard of them. Is that Greta Thunberg's more radical twin?

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