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WSL Hello Sudo: Face Recognition of Windows Hello on Windows Subsystem for Linux

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Re: WSL Hello Sudo: Face Recognition of Windows Hello on Windows Subsystem for Linux

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Post by 29athrowaway »

oblio wrote: post #36
29athrowaway wrote: post #12

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I hate the Windows desktop (and server). Right now I am using XFCE. Much faster than Windows, lower memory footprint and I got it to look similar to macOS to some extent. Using Windows compared to using XFCE is like pulling a stubborn donkey. No, I don't want to update, I don't want a voice assistant, I don't want absurd UIs, I don't want telemetry, I just want a goddamn menu and desktop icons.

Well, what can I say, good for you :-) >No, I don't want to update Why don't you want to update? You really should. > I don't want a voice assistant It takes less than 5 minutes to disable and hide it. > I don't want absurd UIs How do you define absurd UIs? Do you think 1 billion people using Windows are all absurd? If so, that's highly arrogant of you. > I don't want telemetry It's a bit annoying and philosophically…

The billion people you mentioned use Windows because it was preinstalled on their computer. They also have not, in their majority, heard of Linux. There is almost no company doing marketing for Linux desktops.

Many people use computers for entertainment and Windows has more compatibility with games because game developers target Windows. Even though many of the game engines they use support Linux.

With Wine, Proton, Dxvk, etc... the game compatibility gap is closing rapidly, though.

Now, many occupations require software that won't run on Linux (software from Autodesk, Adobe, etc), but the use case for the vast majority of people is well covered.

If they were given the chance to acquire their computer for cheaper without an OS they would have done so.

Re: WSL Hello Sudo: Face Recognition of Windows Hello on Windows Subsystem for Linux

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Post by 29athrowaway »

franga2000 wrote: post #56
oblio wrote: post #53

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I don't know what their thought process was when they decided it, but they for sure knew it was going to be painful for users. I imagine they didn't have any other way to do it. If they don't do it, everyone complains that the Control Panel is getting antiquated, if they do it, people complain why they're changing it like this. We have to be realistic here.

It's definitely a tough situation, but they did in the the dumbest way possible. By intentionally hiding old menus before the new ones are fixed, they have effectively broken the OS itself for the vast majority of users. My favorite example of this is the sound output setting. Windows has two output "streams" - communication and media. The old menu used to have a "set default" button that set a device to default for…

Pretty much everything you describe are poorly cherrypicked non issues that affect fictional people. Like the tormented fictional people from informercials.

Just use pavucontrol (Pulseaudio volume control) which comes included with most distros.

Re: WSL Hello Sudo: Face Recognition of Windows Hello on Windows Subsystem for Linux

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Post by franga2000 »

29athrowaway wrote: post #82
franga2000 wrote: post #56

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It's definitely a tough situation, but they did in the the dumbest way possible. By intentionally hiding old menus before the new ones are fixed, they have effectively broken the OS itself for the vast majority of users. My favorite example of this is the sound output setting. Windows has two output "streams" - communication and media. The old menu used to have a "set default" button that set a device to default for…

Pretty much everything you describe are poorly cherrypicked non issues that affect fictional people. Like the tormented fictional people from informercials. Just use pavucontrol (Pulseaudio volume control) which comes included with most distros.

Windows 10...pavucontrol... I have a feeling you really didn't read the thread leading up to this

Re: WSL Hello Sudo: Face Recognition of Windows Hello on Windows Subsystem for Linux

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Post by franga2000 »

neogodless wrote: post #68
franga2000 wrote: post #56

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It's definitely a tough situation, but they did in the the dumbest way possible. By intentionally hiding old menus before the new ones are fixed, they have effectively broken the OS itself for the vast majority of users. My favorite example of this is the sound output setting. Windows has two output "streams" - communication and media. The old menu used to have a "set default" button that set a device to default for…

I'm on the latest release version (20H2). If you go to Settings > Sound, there's a Related Settings heading, under which you'll find Sound Control Panel. There's the list of output devices where you can Set Default, and there's a tab for Communications, though there's not a lot in there. Is that what you're talking about?

Yes, that's the one. I've have that menu as well, but it's not always there. I think there were a couple of versions without it, but they probably realised this exact problem and put it back. Still not a very discoverable thing for someone who doesn't know exactly what they're looking for though.

Re: WSL Hello Sudo: Face Recognition of Windows Hello on Windows Subsystem for Linux

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Post by franga2000 »

oblio wrote: post #63
franga2000 wrote: post #56

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It's definitely a tough situation, but they did in the the dumbest way possible. By intentionally hiding old menus before the new ones are fixed, they have effectively broken the OS itself for the vast majority of users. My favorite example of this is the sound output setting. Windows has two output "streams" - communication and media. The old menu used to have a "set default" button that set a device to default for…

Which version is this in? I'm on 1909 and there is still a link to the Sound Control Panel in the top right menu of the Sound Settings page.

Yeah, it's usually there, but I've also seen it not be. I never bothered to figure out why, it was probably just a short-lived update and I guess many people got stuck on it for a bit. It's still definitely the kind of thing even a more capable user probably wouldn't think to even look for if they didn't know about the whole media vs comms stream thing and that exact menu.

Re: WSL Hello Sudo: Face Recognition of Windows Hello on Windows Subsystem for Linux

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Post by eneville »

zeusk wrote: post #46
eneville wrote: post #35

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Wouldn't anyone with a pension or shares in a company want it to succeed?

but that's the employees sole intent, and not the "firm". People really get riled up with some brands, but I think brands are really just people who operate the brand collectively, often with an emphasis on the leadership that gets to guide the sail. Gates and Ballmer are past.

How is Gates past? Doesn't he still own the majority share but just someone else is the face of the company? I would assume, as a majority share holder, your interests and ethics would remain the same.
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