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Re: Beyond Meat signs global supply deals with McDonald’s, KFC and Pizza Hut

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Post by hedora »

m8s wrote: post #441
hammock wrote: post #383

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>when you add up every hot pocket, frozen pizza, slider, hot dog, or chicken nugget, it's hard to argue that most of meat actually being consumed can't be easily substituted. For something healthier and cheaper too! Read the labels more closely the next time you eat that hot pocket or frozen sausage pizza. A large number of these products already have "textured vegetable protein" (TVP) or other meat substitute in the…

Ingredients ENRICHED WHEAT FLOUR (WHEAT FLOUR, NIACIN, REDUCED IRON, THIAMINE MONONITRATE, RIBOFLAVIN, AND FOLIC ACID), WATER, LOW-MOISTURE PART-SKIM MOZZARELLA CHEESE (CULTURED PART-SKIM MILK, SALT, ENZYMES), TOMATO PASTE, COOKED SEASONED PIZZA TOPPING MADE WITH PORK AND CHICKEN, BHA, BHT AND CITRIC ACID ADDED TO HELP PROTECT FLAVOR (PORK, MECHANICALLY SEPARATED CHICKEN, WATER, TEXTURED SOY PROTEIN CONCENTRATE, SPIC…

Wheat, yeast, water

Tomato, basil, oregano

Milk, cultures

Salt, oil.

Whatever pepperoni is made of.

Did I miss anything?

Re: Beyond Meat signs global supply deals with McDonald’s, KFC and Pizza Hut

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Post by metabagel »

partiallypro wrote: post #11
drewg123 wrote: post #2

This is the best news I've heard all week. The more widely vegan "meat" is available, the more likely it is to be adopted by average people and not just dedicated vegans. Reducing the demand for real beef is probably one of the best things we can do in the short term for the environment, due to the amount of land required for cattle farming, and due to the surprising amount of methane emitted by cattle. (see the docu…

Are there stats to back up that non-vegans begin consuming more vegan based meals if they have the option? And I mean more than once. A consumer might try it but then go back to normal. At there good stats on repeat buying on a large scale?

What you’re referring to are sometimes called “flexitarians” - people who will often choose a vegetarian option if it is available, but who will eat meat if no suitable vegetarian option is available.

Re: Beyond Meat signs global supply deals with McDonald’s, KFC and Pizza Hut

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Post by metabagel »

throwawayboise wrote: post #94
partiallypro wrote: post #11

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Are there stats to back up that non-vegans begin consuming more vegan based meals if they have the option? And I mean more than once. A consumer might try it but then go back to normal. At there good stats on repeat buying on a large scale?

I'd like to know that too. I've never tried fake meat, and have no desire to. If I want to eat meat, I want real meat. I don't trust industrially processed synthetic foods, and I'd think we'd have learned by now that they are not worthy of our trust.

Impossible burgers are ridiculously close to meat and worth a try. Beyond Burgers are more noticeably different than meat.

Re: Beyond Meat signs global supply deals with McDonald’s, KFC and Pizza Hut

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Post by phonypc »

jandrese wrote: post #267
olyjohn wrote: post #190

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I bought a package of Beyond Meat. It was right next to the ground beef, and looked like ground beef. I assumed I could substitute it for ground beef in my spaghetti. Big fat nope! I opened the package, and it smelled exactly like dog food. The smell when cooking it was horrible. It completely ruined my batch of spaghetti. I don't know how people are cooking this stuff and enjoying it. Maybe there's some other way to…

Yeah, the artificial smoke flavor makes it useless for anything that isn't supposed to taste like it was on an open flame grill. I tried using the Beyond ground burger substitute for tacos once and all I could taste was that stupid smoke flavor. The Impossible ground burger substitute is far more versatile, but harder to find. None of my local grocery stores carry it.

There is no smoke flavouring in Beyond Burgers.

Re: Beyond Meat signs global supply deals with McDonald’s, KFC and Pizza Hut

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Post by flipcoder »

CyanBird wrote: post #609
trashface wrote: post #584

Great, another way to load up on Omega 6 acids via vegetable oil. Exactly what Americans need. Hello obesity and inflammation disorders. The for-profit medical industry in the US will love this. I'm a vegetarian, so it doesn't affect me too much, but you meat eaters may be better off with moderate consumption of actual (good quality) meat.

So this is the next debate point from vegans etc towards meat eaters? "don't eat that fake meat bs bc it is harmful to you, eat" natural meat instead "? Don't you see that it is a bit against the general best interest of ppl? As to even begin most of the population are not eating organic meat by a long shot

> "don't eat that fake meat bs bc it is harmful to you, eat" natural meat instead "?

Yes.

Re: Beyond Meat signs global supply deals with McDonald’s, KFC and Pizza Hut

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Post by trashface »

philliphaydon wrote: post #613
CyanBird wrote: post #609

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So this is the next debate point from vegans etc towards meat eaters? "don't eat that fake meat bs bc it is harmful to you, eat" natural meat instead "? Don't you see that it is a bit against the general best interest of ppl? As to even begin most of the population are not eating organic meat by a long shot

By good quality I don’t think the OP meant organic. But meat that hasn’t been processed like in fast food...

Yes, exactly. You don't have to eat organic. Just avoid meat from cows raised on corn and soy and copious amount of antibiotics. Which is probably 90% of the beef in the US.

Re: Beyond Meat signs global supply deals with McDonald’s, KFC and Pizza Hut

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Post by ssijak »

DamnYuppie wrote: post #27
drewg123 wrote: post #2

This is the best news I've heard all week. The more widely vegan "meat" is available, the more likely it is to be adopted by average people and not just dedicated vegans. Reducing the demand for real beef is probably one of the best things we can do in the short term for the environment, due to the amount of land required for cattle farming, and due to the surprising amount of methane emitted by cattle. (see the docu…

I truly don't understand the methane issue. Historically worldwide the # of ungulates is probably well below historical averages. It looks like today we have around 98 million head of cattle in the US. Historically we had bison in excess of conservatively 60 million. This doesn't even begin to count all the animals in Africa. Overall wide life is declining. https://www.statista.com/statistics/194297/total-number-of-c…

Other problem is forest and jungle clearings to make land for cattle farming. Mostly in Brazil in Amazon but elsewere too.

Re: Beyond Meat signs global supply deals with McDonald’s, KFC and Pizza Hut

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Post by ericd »

MaximumYComb wrote: post #631
zests wrote: post #512

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Think about it. Cows release carbon based green house gasses. Where does that carbon originally come from? Plants absorbing carbon based green house gasses. I'm not saying that they cancel out, but there must be some consumption of carbon from the atmosphere in order for cows to produce carbon. If you're an environmentalist trying to convince people to support your cause, you aren't going to talk about the carbon tha…

This is what I don't understand about companies planting trees to offset their fossil fuel CO2. Our problems are heavily caused by carbon being dug out of the ground and released. A tree just means that the carbon will be released at a later date

It's mostly feel-good greenwashing, as far as I can tell.

Bill Gates recommends a company for doing offsetting that actually pulls carbon out of the air and sequesters it underground, removing it from the carbon cycle: https://climeworks.com/subscriptions

It appears to cost ~$1/kg, but I'm guessing that will come down substantially if they're able to scale it up.

Re: Beyond Meat signs global supply deals with McDonald’s, KFC and Pizza Hut

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Post by 3131s »

narrator wrote: post #565
jredwards wrote: post #191

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I watched Cowspiracy. It was not convincing. It used numbers that seemed wildly exaggerated on their face, even before doing follow-on research. It also seemed designed to be emotionally manipulative more than informative. Maybe I don't watch enough documentaries, but it had a youtube conspiracy theorist vibe to it, rather than a measured, investigative approach.

Any time there's a vegan angle to a scientific study or a documentary the standard of proof for me is much higher because these causes are often pushed for animal rights reasons.

What a dumb comment.

I can't wait until all humans are dead.

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