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Beyond Meat signs global supply deals with McDonald’s, KFC and Pizza Hut
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Re: Beyond Meat signs global supply deals with McDonald’s, KFC and Pizza Hut
#622Earlier quoted context omitted.
Yeah and the health arguments tend to fall apart when you get into fast-food/highly processed crap territory, which probably accounts for a large portion of meat consumption in the developed world. Eating less of that stuff is probably a good thing. That said quality meat is a good source of various nutrients and amino acids that can be difficult to get from plant-based sources, and fish in particular can be farmed v…
> fast-food/highly processed crap territory, which probably accounts for a large portion of meat consumption in the developed world A large portion of animal by-products, almost certainly. I doubt that a lot of what fast-food joints use, would be considered "meat" before it was processed. Nobody is asking their local butcher for the Cows eyeballs and asshole.
How many cow anuses would it take to make McDonalds meat? more than cow anuses exist in the world, I bet. McDonalds' is made of meat, just processed into a highly manageable consistent form.
Re: Beyond Meat signs global supply deals with McDonald’s, KFC and Pizza Hut
#623Earlier quoted context omitted.
I truly don't understand the methane issue. Historically worldwide the # of ungulates is probably well below historical averages. It looks like today we have around 98 million head of cattle in the US. Historically we had bison in excess of conservatively 60 million. This doesn't even begin to count all the animals in Africa. Overall wide life is declining. https://www.statista.com/statistics/194297/total-number-of-c…
Wild life mammals are simply negligible compared to our livestock: https://xkcd.com/1338/
I'm surprised by the number of sheep. At least I thought the number for pig would be larger.
Re: Beyond Meat signs global supply deals with McDonald’s, KFC and Pizza Hut
#624I prefer the taste of impossible but this is great news for the category.
I agree, Beyond overdoes the fake smoke flavor. But they seem to be better equipped to scale up than Impossible, they've beaten them to mass market in almost every location I've seen.
impossible is focusing on restaurants more than mass market. observe eg partnerships with chefs/restaurants. a fairly large amount of beef in the US is consumed in restaurants/made to order type stuff; that's what they're attacking
Re: Beyond Meat signs global supply deals with McDonald’s, KFC and Pizza Hut
#625Earlier quoted context omitted.
How on Earth did we end up having so many ingredients in what essentially is just pizza. The food industry really has gone too far by over-processing everything.
What are the issues with those ingredients?
long list = bad
never heard of it = bad
can't pronounce it = bad
thinking = brain hurt
Re: Beyond Meat signs global supply deals with McDonald’s, KFC and Pizza Hut
#626Earlier quoted context omitted.
>when you add up every hot pocket, frozen pizza, slider, hot dog, or chicken nugget, it's hard to argue that most of meat actually being consumed can't be easily substituted. For something healthier and cheaper too! Read the labels more closely the next time you eat that hot pocket or frozen sausage pizza. A large number of these products already have "textured vegetable protein" (TVP) or other meat substitute in the…
Ingredients ENRICHED WHEAT FLOUR (WHEAT FLOUR, NIACIN, REDUCED IRON, THIAMINE MONONITRATE, RIBOFLAVIN, AND FOLIC ACID), WATER, LOW-MOISTURE PART-SKIM MOZZARELLA CHEESE (CULTURED PART-SKIM MILK, SALT, ENZYMES), TOMATO PASTE, COOKED SEASONED PIZZA TOPPING MADE WITH PORK AND CHICKEN, BHA, BHT AND CITRIC ACID ADDED TO HELP PROTECT FLAVOR (PORK, MECHANICALLY SEPARATED CHICKEN, WATER, TEXTURED SOY PROTEIN CONCENTRATE, SPIC…
I suddenly crave an apple.
Re: Beyond Meat signs global supply deals with McDonald’s, KFC and Pizza Hut
#627It's very interesting to see that the veganism debate will be settled not by anyone actually winning the argument, but by innovation once again obviating an unnecessary debate.
Humans can fundamentally do anything! Dream big.
Re: Beyond Meat signs global supply deals with McDonald’s, KFC and Pizza Hut
#628Earlier quoted context omitted.
Just because you believe this doesn’t make it true. Do you think a pack of coyotes tearing apart a newborn deer is unethical too? Do you think farming grains and vegetables is without impact on wildlife?
Humans have moral agency, and most importantly, do not need meat to survive in 2020. Which is different than wild coyotes. Veganism according to the vegan society: https://www.vegansociety.com/go-vegan/definition-veganism > "Veganism is a philosophy and way of living which seeks to exclude—as far as is possible and practicable—all forms of exploitation of, and cruelty to, animals for food, clothing or any other purpo…
> “we still need to farm grains for feed, more than we would have to otherwise. Reducing animal agriculture will have a positive impact on wildlife, reducing deforestation, etc.”
Uh, where do you think Vegan friendly foods are grown? Do you realize that the earth must be cultivated to grow the vast majority of these foods? Do you think farmers of these foods take kindly to crop damage from wild animals?
Beef cattle do not require farmed grain, in fact many graze only beef farms exist and the practice continues to gain popularity.
I respect your choice to be Vegan, please respect my choice to reject lab grown goop.
Re: Beyond Meat signs global supply deals with McDonald’s, KFC and Pizza Hut
#629I really wanted to like Beyond Meat, but there's something about how it smells that seems... off... to me. I really want to go work there just to play with a GCMS and figure out what component smells bad to me and remove it. Personally, I think the epitome of vegan meat replacement is Morningstar Veggie Breakfast Patties. most meat eaters I know who try them say "huh... this is pretty damn good for something that doe…
It's the coconut oil. Coconut oil smells terrible when cooked, like burning rust.
Re: Beyond Meat signs global supply deals with McDonald’s, KFC and Pizza Hut
#630Earlier quoted context omitted.
I've consumed a lot of Beyond and Impossible, and it's good! But still a far way from unrecognizable. In fact, one thing they have made me appreciate is how good some of the "traditional" meat substitutes are. I actually quite like Boca and Garden Burgers et al! Still, the once or twice a year I go to a steakhouse and get a nice medium rare steak - we're a long, long way off from that.
I know it's slightly different, but the goal is to be the same. And actually, if I were to decide whether the meat in Mc Donald's burgers or nuggets is real, I'd just say no - it is much further from a "real" burger / nugget than I'd say about beyond.
Nuggets are debatable. McD's burger patties are just beef and salt though.