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Beyond Meat signs global supply deals with McDonald’s, KFC and Pizza Hut

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Re: Beyond Meat signs global supply deals with McDonald’s, KFC and Pizza Hut

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I tried the impossible whopper. You literally could not tell the difference between that and a normal beef whopper. I realized a lot the attributes of these commercial food products are the additions, like sauce, and toppings that contribute to that precisely calibrated flavor.

My wife is vegan and let me try her Impossible Burger at a local chain. I am not vegan so she wanted to know how accurate the taste was. It tasted exactly like a frozen burger you'd cook on your backyard grill.

Re: Beyond Meat signs global supply deals with McDonald’s, KFC and Pizza Hut

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I prefer the taste of impossible but this is great news for the category.

I agree, Beyond overdoes the fake smoke flavor. But they seem to be better equipped to scale up than Impossible, they've beaten them to mass market in almost every location I've seen.

I imagine that they'll tweak the flavoring for customers like Taco Bell, who wouldn't want the over-the-top smoke flavor. Like others here, I have tried Beyond as a ground beef substitute (in chili) and found it to be way too smokey.

On the other hand, Impossible + ground turkey makes a great chili.

Re: Beyond Meat signs global supply deals with McDonald’s, KFC and Pizza Hut

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The popular crusade against meat is one of the more misguided. Meat provides far more nutritional value than any plant and the environmental impacts have been greatly exaggerated. See below: Regarding carbon: "removal of livestock in the US would only lead to a net GHG reduction of 2.6% in national emissions. Similarly, removing all dairy would lead to a reduction of just 0.7%. At the same time, both transitions woul…

This isn't a crusade against meat, it's a crusade between Beyond Meat and Impossible Foods as to who will capture the (niche) alt-beef market. McDonald's signed an agreement making BM their preferred supplier of fake beef, so Impossible is put at a disadvantage. Absolutely none of this replaces any real beef with fake beef, or even results in less real beef eaten or sold.

Here's the flip side -

Beyond meat makes basic veggie burgers. There's nothing special about them you couldn't make without the recipe.

Impossible foods has the yeast sourced heme thats supposed to make it taste and cook more like meat. That's patented, and not easy to replace.

So BM can be in every McDonalds for a year and then be replaced by a McFakeMeat Burger and there's nothing they can do. Impossible actually has a product you can't make.

In the long run I think Impossible is better food. The question is always one of price.

Re: Beyond Meat signs global supply deals with McDonald’s, KFC and Pizza Hut

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> "On a side note: I'm not vegetarian. I simply agree with those who are." This was my position for a long time until finally making the jump at the beginning of the pandemic (vegetarian, will rarely eat fish sometimes). For me, it was mostly about reducing suffering of other animals. I thought this way before but it's hard to change behavior and I liked hamburgers. I think this is the strongest argument and the envi…

>> For me, it was mostly about reducing suffering of other animals. The way I think of it, pigs are very intelligent, more intelligent than dogs. However, humans are more intelligent. If pigs were more intelligent, pigs would eat humans. And that's not a figure of speech. Pig would eat us if they could. They wouldn't stop and think, gee, does this little baby human girl cry because it doesn't want to be eaten, maybe…

> "So why should I not eat them? What kind of superior morality am I supposed to claim for myself to think I'm morally better than a pig? None. A pig would eat me, so I eat a pig."

This just isn't very strong reasoning to me. Pigs and other animals do lots of things you would presumably not do.

A pig would also not keep you in a farm to eat later (among many other industrialized things we do to livestock). Just because a pig would do something and is unable to choose does not make that equivalent to you doing the same thing as the pig when you are able to choose.

We have the capacity to choose not to eat them and to reduce suffering as a result.

That seems like something a more intelligent creature should have as a goal.

If we set the bar at what other animals would do if they could, doesn't that justify basically any behavior? Other animals eat their own young sometimes, but if someone used that as a justification to eat their own infant I doubt you'd think that's a good thing.

You are not a pig.

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You can't be racist towards white people. It would only be racist if the said angry black men.

Only racists say you can't be racist towards white people. You, for instance.

It was sarcasm LOL.

Re: Beyond Meat signs global supply deals with McDonald’s, KFC and Pizza Hut

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This is the best news I've heard all week. The more widely vegan "meat" is available, the more likely it is to be adopted by average people and not just dedicated vegans. Reducing the demand for real beef is probably one of the best things we can do in the short term for the environment, due to the amount of land required for cattle farming, and due to the surprising amount of methane emitted by cattle. (see the docu…

The real game changer will be when they price it cheaper than meat.

Re: Beyond Meat signs global supply deals with McDonald’s, KFC and Pizza Hut

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> "On a side note: I'm not vegetarian. I simply agree with those who are." This was my position for a long time until finally making the jump at the beginning of the pandemic (vegetarian, will rarely eat fish sometimes). For me, it was mostly about reducing suffering of other animals. I thought this way before but it's hard to change behavior and I liked hamburgers. I think this is the strongest argument and the envi…

>> For me, it was mostly about reducing suffering of other animals. The way I think of it, pigs are very intelligent, more intelligent than dogs. However, humans are more intelligent. If pigs were more intelligent, pigs would eat humans. And that's not a figure of speech. Pig would eat us if they could. They wouldn't stop and think, gee, does this little baby human girl cry because it doesn't want to be eaten, maybe…

I share this view but also add that I’d like to reduce the cruelty to the pig or any animal.

We all die and are food for something eventually. But not everyone gets a good existence and I wish they did. If the pig gets to roll around in some nice mud and sunbath for a few years that will make me feel better.

I don’t care if the pig wouldn’t do the same for me, but I wish it would.

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Do you happen to have a source for this?

Let me google that for you: "seaweed livestock feed" But here, Yale, have a blessed day. God speed. https://e360.yale.edu/features/how-eating-seaweed-can-help-c...

>> Be kind. Don't be snarky. Have curious conversation; don't cross-examine. Please don't fulminate. Please don't sneer, including at the rest of the community.

https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html

Re: Beyond Meat signs global supply deals with McDonald’s, KFC and Pizza Hut

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like elephants? giraffes? Hippos? I'm not a vegetarian but I can think of lots of large herbivores.

Elephants spend 12-18 hours a day eating,[1] compared to 68 minutes on average for an American human.[2] Is that what you want for me and your children?

[1]http://www.nationalelephantcenter.org/learn/#:~:text=Since%2....

[2]https://www.foodnetwork.com/fn-dish/news/2015/07/guess-how-m...

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