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“This destroys the RSA cryptosystem”

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Re: “This destroys the RSA cryptosystem”

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They only tested with numbers size of ~2^800, which is around 240 digits, but I believe (correct me if I'm wrong) there exists usages of RSA with over 600 digits, so it'll still take a massively long amount of time to factor those numbers...

Typical key lengths for RSA these days are 2048 and 4096 bits. I don't know what that means for this paper, just happened to have those two key lengths off the top of my head.

So, 616 and 1233 digits, respectively.

Re: “This destroys the RSA cryptosystem”

#33

This last sentence of the abstract, "This destroyes the RSA cryptosystem", does not appear on the abstract of the actual PDF (which also appears to be dated). How does it destroy RSA? Under what conditions? That claim sounds rather broad and definitely bold, to say the least.

> work in progress 31.10.2019

^ Date on the pdf

Re: “This destroys the RSA cryptosystem”

#34

They only tested with numbers size of ~2^800, which is around 240 digits, but I believe (correct me if I'm wrong) there exists usages of RSA with over 600 digits, so it'll still take a massively long amount of time to factor those numbers...

Typical key lengths for RSA these days are 2048 and 4096 bits. I don't know what that means for this paper, just happened to have those two key lengths off the top of my head.

2048 bits ~ 617 decimal digits, 4096 bits ~ 1234 digits.

Re: “This destroys the RSA cryptosystem”

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Yeah, if this really is fast prime factoring, we're all in a lot of trouble.

If that's the case it's funny to think... NSA could have sat on this for years. Though that would be a really hard secret to keep.

I'd always figured they'd have a (useful) quantum computer sitting in the basement of Ft. Meade at some point, and it's existence would be Top Secret with whatever codeword means "if this leaks, or we think it'll leak, we just assassinate you"

Re: “This destroys the RSA cryptosystem”

#37

Can someone please correct me? We don't know polynomial CVP/SVP algorithms correct? In fact, isn't SVP an NP-Hard problem? Why would this "destroy" RSA?

I'm not sure if this is the claim in the paper; but I'll try to explain in plain terms.

Let's say you have an algorithm that can solve NP-hard problems in polynomial time with an N% success rate.

What value of N makes the algorithm useful in practice depends on the practicality of its use as an attack against the NP-hard problem; there is an inflection point whereat the speed of the attack outstrips the speed at which the cypher can change secrets.

Re: “This destroys the RSA cryptosystem”

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Would someone competent in cryptography please explain this to a “regular” programmer?

Yeah, if this really is fast prime factoring, we're all in a lot of trouble.

Dunno we have post quantum algorithms which don't rely on factoring prime numbers like RSA does, but it will be a lot of systems administration type work to make sure that nobody is using RSA keys anymore.

Re: “This destroys the RSA cryptosystem”

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The author of this paper is Claus P. Schnorr[1], of Schnorr signature fame. The paper has almost the same title as a 2017 draft paper[2] of his. The “This destroyes the RSA cryptosystem” quote is not in the linked paper abstract. This seems fishy. [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Claus_P._Schnorr [2] https://www.math.uni-frankfurt.de/~dmst/research/papers/SVP9...

EDIT: that draft appears in clearer sources with the same spelling, disregard below... He also apparently misspelled(?) his own name. It's "Claus-Peter" (also on other publications), not "Claus Peter". agreed, seems odd.

Claus Peter is the name on the actual (2019 draft) paper too?

https://eprint.iacr.org/2021/232.pdf

Re: “This destroys the RSA cryptosystem”

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post #26

The author of this paper is Claus P. Schnorr[1], of Schnorr signature fame. The paper has almost the same title as a 2017 draft paper[2] of his. The “This destroyes the RSA cryptosystem” quote is not in the linked paper abstract. This seems fishy. [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Claus_P._Schnorr [2] https://www.math.uni-frankfurt.de/~dmst/research/papers/SVP9...

EDIT: that draft appears in clearer sources with the same spelling, disregard below... He also apparently misspelled(?) his own name. It's "Claus-Peter" (also on other publications), not "Claus Peter". agreed, seems odd.

I wouldn't necessarily consider that a misspelling.
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