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Re: Beyond Meat signs global supply deals with McDonald’s, KFC and Pizza Hut

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Post by RandallBrown »

jfengel wrote: post #79
ukyrgf wrote: post #55

Impossible is definitely better tasting, but I'm happy to see Taco Bell is included in this deal (though not in the headline here on HN). I haven't been there since they got rid of potatoes, so having a vegan option would make my taco consumption during lunch break skyrocket.

Taco meat [EDIT: in Taco Bell's usage] is a perfect application, since its texture is already squishy and the flavor is dominated by spice. Plus, it's wrapped in a shell and mixed with lettuce and other things. Even a mediocre fake meat is enough to pass. Beyond Meat should have no trouble producing a virtually-indistinguishable taco meat.

Jack In The Box has been using textured vegetable protein instead of meat forever. Most people don't even realize it's not meat.

Re: Beyond Meat signs global supply deals with McDonald’s, KFC and Pizza Hut

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Post by TazeTSchnitzel »

elktea wrote: post #59
drewg123 wrote: post #2

This is the best news I've heard all week. The more widely vegan "meat" is available, the more likely it is to be adopted by average people and not just dedicated vegans. Reducing the demand for real beef is probably one of the best things we can do in the short term for the environment, due to the amount of land required for cattle farming, and due to the surprising amount of methane emitted by cattle. (see the docu…

The popular crusade against meat is one of the more misguided. Meat provides far more nutritional value than any plant and the environmental impacts have been greatly exaggerated. See below: Regarding carbon: "removal of livestock in the US would only lead to a net GHG reduction of 2.6% in national emissions. Similarly, removing all dairy would lead to a reduction of just 0.7%. At the same time, both transitions woul…

> Meat provides far more nutritional value than any plant

Meat provides far less nutritional value than was collectively contained in the plants used to produce it.

Re: Beyond Meat signs global supply deals with McDonald’s, KFC and Pizza Hut

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Post by mindcandy »

zozin wrote: post #102

HN masses cheering on the success of Soylent Red or Soylent Yellow?? Just eat less meat if you think meat production is bad/bad for the planet, don't cheer on meat substitutes, which are just processed foods made from entirely processed ingredients. Eating meat for every meal is not good for you, but you can bet that Beyond and Impossible will advertise themselves as something that can be eaten for breakfast, lunch a…

The founder of Impossible Foods has said that a major motivator for founding the company is

1. Global poverty is lifting. People around the world are starting to make more money. 2. A big point of pride when your family starts making money is literally putting meat on the table. 3. Our current meat production process cannot scale up to meet that demand.

But, good luck convincing billions of people coming out of extreme poverty that they're simply too late and they should give up on the dream that they can finally have meat too --for the sake of climate change. They are going to demand something. He believes plant-based meat can reach that scale at a tiny fraction of the impact if they can make it acceptably close in quality.

That's something I can cheer for.

Re: Beyond Meat signs global supply deals with McDonald’s, KFC and Pizza Hut

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Post by wyre »

DamnYuppie wrote: post #139
jdavis703 wrote: post #49

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It’s not just cow farts. Raising and killing a whole cow is an inefficient way to extract calories from plants. Even chicken would be more efficient.

My understanding is that cooked meat has much higher caloric value than vegetables. To be honest if it wasn't so good for us we wouldn't have evolved to consume it!

Cows need to eat thousands of pounds of plants before they are at a size to get slaughtered and prepared as food.

Humans evolved to eat meat as a way to survive through winter. Early diets relied heavily on gathered foods.

Re: Beyond Meat signs global supply deals with McDonald’s, KFC and Pizza Hut

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Post by poopoopeepee »

zozin wrote: post #102

HN masses cheering on the success of Soylent Red or Soylent Yellow?? Just eat less meat if you think meat production is bad/bad for the planet, don't cheer on meat substitutes, which are just processed foods made from entirely processed ingredients. Eating meat for every meal is not good for you, but you can bet that Beyond and Impossible will advertise themselves as something that can be eaten for breakfast, lunch a…

> industrial slop

Do you have a blender? Everything that comes out of a blender is industrial slop by definition. Why shame people because they allow someone to blend and form their food for them?

Re: Beyond Meat signs global supply deals with McDonald’s, KFC and Pizza Hut

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Post by dfxm12 »

They just missed the start of this Lenten season. I'm fascinated by what fast food places market when a huge chunk of their customers won't eat land or air-based meat one a day out of the week. Is Beyond Meat finally going to topple the fish sandwich?

As an aside, I did always want to try the Mc hula burger, but thanks to Vatican II, it was not long for this world and died way before I was born...

Re: Beyond Meat signs global supply deals with McDonald’s, KFC and Pizza Hut

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Post by RandallBrown »

JoshTriplett wrote: post #26
marrone12 wrote: post #3

I prefer the taste of impossible but this is great news for the category.

I prefer Impossible Burger as a substitute for grounds, but Beyond Meat also makes things like hot dogs and breakfast sausage, which Impossible doesn't.

Impossible makes breakfast sausage. Starbucks has an Impossible breakfast sandwich.

Re: Beyond Meat signs global supply deals with McDonald’s, KFC and Pizza Hut

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Post by therealmarv »

savrajsingh wrote: post #210
therealmarv wrote: post #140

Earlier quoted context omitted.

You should research on German Ökotest and beyond meat test. I don't get why things like beyond meat is not more tested. Why is mineral oil in their patties ???

there is no mineral oil in beyond meat: https://www.beyondmeat.com/products/beyond-beef/ click 'ingredients'

not on purpose. Just google for words:

beyond meat mineral oil Öko-Test

or see my other comment https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=26320898

Re: Beyond Meat signs global supply deals with McDonald’s, KFC and Pizza Hut

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Post by maxerickson »

ska wrote: post #184
bweitzman wrote: post #84

Earlier quoted context omitted.

How are you comparing nutritional value between meat and plant products? There are literally hundreds of millions (if not billions) of people that have been eating vegetarian diets for their entire lives, and these types of diets have been popular for millennia.

> How are you comparing nutritional value between meat and plant products? It's impossible to do this really rigorously, as there are too many unknowns in nutrition still. So this leaves holed you can drive all sorts of sized trucks through, which means a lot of argument but not a lot of resolution.

There's not magic shit in meat, it's mostly water and amino acids and the remaining fraction is mostly bad for you.

(I eat meat all the time, but we know a lot more than barely anything about nutrition. Figure out vitamin RDAs in milligrams if you want an example)

Re: Beyond Meat signs global supply deals with McDonald’s, KFC and Pizza Hut

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Post by throwawayboise »

erichurkman wrote: post #198
throwawayboise wrote: post #119

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Not sure what you mean by "vertically integrated" they do not own cattle ranches or potato farms. They buy Heinz or Hunts catsup, etc. They do have a lot of proprietary recipes and process, but the ingredients are mostly sourced from other wholesale producers.

The cattle ranches and potato farms don't have their names or logos on the burgers or fries. McDonalds can swap them out at any time. Soda, on the other hand, is Coke's product and brand completely.

Yes, this is hardly different from any other restaurant.
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