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Proposal for an Internet Service: The Eternal Home Page (1996)

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Re: Proposal for an Internet Service: The Eternal Home Page (1996)

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a homepage that can lie dormant for millennia in the sands of our ruined planet and can activate, when a strange kind of sentience discovers it and exposes its sensors again to the warmth of reddish sunlight of our dying star. Its crystal memory unit starts to reflow, emitting weak signals in an undecipherable language long forgotten ...

Re: Proposal for an Internet Service: The Eternal Home Page (1996)

#42
A counter suggestion:

Proposal for the Future Service: the Eternal Infinite Day (now)

A first principles approach to this would be a time machine + a cosmic simulation console. I’m not saying that the technology will be available this month but definitely sometime this year (or technically last year too) is probable.

At least it’s a non zero chance. Combine that with a long enough timeline, and the future might just become the past.

Re: Proposal for an Internet Service: The Eternal Home Page (1996)

#43
A counter suggestion:

Proposal for the Future Service: the Eternal Infinite Day (now)

A first principles approach to this would be a time machine + a cosmic simulation console. I’m not saying that the technology will be available this month but definitely sometime this year (or technically last year too) is probable.

At least it’s a non zero chance. Combine that with a long enough timeline, and the future might just become the past.

Re: Proposal for an Internet Service: The Eternal Home Page (1996)

#44

I’ve been interested in doing this for some time. I haven’t looked into How to do it heavily yet; however my hunch is, it can be done with one or a combination of these: - IPFS - Dat ( https://dat.foundation/ ) - Ethereum - Prepaying for Hosting and Domains + Archive.org Would be curious to hear how others have gone about this. It would be interesting if there were a service where you could pay in $5,000 worth of Eth…

But why would transhuman AI overlords care about cryptocurrency. Or any other form of currency or valuable stuff. If they are our overlords then what ever they want they can take, they don’t need currency to pay for it.

AI overlords would still require physical presence via metal box and electricity. Two scarce resources. I'll let you connect the rest of the dots.

Re: Proposal for an Internet Service: The Eternal Home Page (1996)

#45
post #28

If you want to preserve digital content for long time, you also probably better stick to boring standards such as plain text files or some static HTML instead of something fancy.

Or even better, print it out in a book, wrap it in acid-free tissue paper, and put it on a shelf, somewhere dry.

Relevant:

http://carlos.bueno.org/2010/09/paper-internet.html

https://www.lowtechmagazine.com/2019/03/printed-website.html

Re: Proposal for an Internet Service: The Eternal Home Page (1996)

#46
post #41

a homepage that can lie dormant for millennia in the sands of our ruined planet and can activate, when a strange kind of sentience discovers it and exposes its sensors again to the warmth of reddish sunlight of our dying star. Its crystal memory unit starts to reflow, emitting weak signals in an undecipherable language long forgotten ...

Make it a space probe and send it into the space!

Reminds me Star Trek TNG "The Inner Light" episode: https://m.imdb.com/title/tt0708803/

Re: Proposal for an Internet Service: The Eternal Home Page (1996)

#47
post #39
post #24

Earlier quoted context omitted.

You can already do this with the Internet Archive, just create a web page, submit it to the wayback machine, then publish the resulting archive link. Like this: https://web.archive.org/web/20210302145655/https://news.ycom...

Except if you lose the domain and someone else picks it up, they can setup a restrictive robots.txt and your page will no longer be visible in the archive.

False:

That's changed, as of 2017:

A few months ago we stopped referring to robots.txt files on U.S. government and military web sites for both crawling and displaying web pages (though we respond to removal requests sent to info@archive.org). As we have moved towards broader access it has not caused problems, which we take as a good sign. We are now looking to do this more broadly.

We see the future of web archiving relying less on robots.txt file declarations geared toward search engines, and more on representing the web as it really was, and is, from a user’s perspective.

https://teleread.org/2017/04/24/the-internet-archive-will-so...

https://blog.archive.org/2017/04/17/robots-txt-meant-for-sea...

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