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Almost 40% of U.S. Consumers Trust Online Reviews Less Than They Did 5 Years Ago

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Re: Almost 40% of U.S. Consumers Trust Online Reviews Less Than They Did 5 Years Ago

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I recently bought some sheets. Actually sorting through the sheets on Amazon was a hassle because 90% of the reviews would be obviously fake "best sheets I've ever slept on - 5 stars" and the remaining 10% would be 1-3 star reviews that would be photographs of poor fabric or tears in the arriving product. It is almost impossible to buy quality goods online and I'm afraid that is just going to get worse.

I had the same exact issue. So I went to target and felt the material i would be sleeping on and have been super happy ever since.

Re: Almost 40% of U.S. Consumers Trust Online Reviews Less Than They Did 5 Years Ago

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This I think stems from a different issue. Doordash has a very easy, one second review they ask from everyone. And I think 99.999% of folks think “oh yeah that was fine, 4 stars” or “it was pretty good, five stars.” Do people get what they expected from that McDonald’s? Was it cheap, fast and nostalgic? 5 stars. The people doing these reviews are not good critics, or critical with any sort of depth. They are the sort…

There is also unevenly distributed cultural knowledge: anything less than five stars starts causing hassle for the driver. I hate this inflation but I also wanna make sure the person who gave me competent service that I would realistically mark as three stars - not bad, not great, job done exactly as specified and I'm perfectly happy with that - is going to get five. (hassle varies: offered fewer/worse-paying jobs is…

When I moved to California for a while I once made the mistake of describing my food at a restaurant with "fine, thanks" when the server asked how it was.

Apparently this translates very differently in the culture of the Bay Area where it means something like "I am very upset" whereas in Boston I think this roughly would be read as "I am satisfied, but don't really feel like chatting."

Re: Almost 40% of U.S. Consumers Trust Online Reviews Less Than They Did 5 Years Ago

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I think the reality is not just that Best Buy is (maybe) creating fake reviews or removing bad ones, but that most reviewers only rate with 1 star or 5 stars. The majority of reviews I find are in one of those two buckets, and only a handful of nuanced reviews fall in 2-4, effectively making the rating of a non controversial product that does what it’s supposed to - but has lemons - from 4 (meh) to 5 (works as expect…

This is why I would support a law that says if you're selling a product and have reviews you must also report how many you've sold over the last year, and how many returns (or maybe a percentage or something). That would be a much more useful metric.

It would be gamed anyway, you'd just get sellers saying "we'll give you twenty dollars for not returning the item."

Re: Almost 40% of U.S. Consumers Trust Online Reviews Less Than They Did 5 Years Ago

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Just had an Amazon vendor offer me the full value of my purchase (in Amazon gift cards) to change my review from 3 stars to four. On one hand, it's great customer service, but on the other the product is still really a three star product.

Well, did you ?

Re: Almost 40% of U.S. Consumers Trust Online Reviews Less Than They Did 5 Years Ago

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As well they should. This is a game of cat and mouse. Consumers were ahead for a little while, but companies have really gotten a grasp on the internet, and they're winning the information war. It's no mistake that I've come to rely on brand name again. It's the best heuristic available to me. When all this first started (mid-2000s) I was actively avoiding basing ANY decision on brand name. For a brief window, I had…

This is true in the real world again (still?) too. We're currently stocking up on disinfecting wipes to donate to the school when they open next month. We've been told that the teachers only want brand name Clorox wipes, because they don't trust any other brand to actually disinfect safely.

Surely buying a brand name disinfectant by the gallon and paper towels and a spray bottle are orders of magnitude cheaper. And probably orders of magnitude better for the environment?

Re: Almost 40% of U.S. Consumers Trust Online Reviews Less Than They Did 5 Years Ago

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and Doordash. how is everything >4? are we really to believe that McDonalds has a rating of 4.6 out of 5? it makes the system completely useless.

If you order McDonalds, you probably know what McDonalds should taste like. If it meets 100% of your expectations, why would you rate it lower? Similarly, if I get a meal from Michelin Star rated restaurant and it fails to meet my high expectations, should it get a better rating than McDonald's just because the restaurants meal was still likely much better than McDonald's even if it failed to meet expectations?

From a utility standpoint, I mean, yeah. You should definitely rate McDonalds lower than a restaurant with food you liked better, if people want to search for "how was the food" divided by "cost of the food" that's obviously a sliding scale that depends on the person. Maybe it should be something you can sort by, but I don't see how you could possibly reconcile ratings from different people if they all give five stars for any restaurant that meets their expectations.

Re: Almost 40% of U.S. Consumers Trust Online Reviews Less Than They Did 5 Years Ago

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Are they still influential? They're something I associate with my parent's generation and the era of print magazines.

They won't influence you if you don't subscribe, of course. I used to subscribe, my sense is that they do a good job, but their tastes are geared toward those of more affluent boomers and genxers. If you're someone who can't afford a Lexus, or who'd even consider choosing a Kia over a Lexus even though you can easily afford one, then Consumer Reports may not cater to your tastes.

I subscribe to their web site. Because my father subscribed and liked it, and I find it useful as well - also my former team lead was a lead there for a while. It is $40 a year.

They do surveys of consumers as well as do their own testing. About once a year they survey about vacuum cleaners - I had to buy one recently, and some brands got high grades, other low grades - so I bought a Shark vacuum cleaner. A few years ago I needed to buy an air conditioner and used CR for that as well. I also needed a laptop in a hurry and CR was one source I consulted (although I consulted several sources).

$40 a year is worth it to me to get a decent air conditioner and vacuum cleaner and such at a decent price (and laptop, although CR was just once of the consulted sources). The Shark vacuum cleaner was the last item I bought and it picks up dirt good, is easy to empty, and can vacuum rugs as well as things that need the hose to vacuum.

Re: Almost 40% of U.S. Consumers Trust Online Reviews Less Than They Did 5 Years Ago

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Yeah that is true. I'm hoping Costco has their supply chain down well enough that it's not an issue, but at least there is a slightly higher chance it's legit if it says Clorox on the side.

Yeah, we've gone back to having to trust the brand name of the distributor - if it says it came from Amazon it is basically assumed to be counterfeit chinese crap; Costco and Home Depot (and even Walmart in store) are a bit more secure there.

Does Walmart (online) co-mingle their inventory with third party inventory like Amazon?

Re: Almost 40% of U.S. Consumers Trust Online Reviews Less Than They Did 5 Years Ago

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There is also unevenly distributed cultural knowledge: anything less than five stars starts causing hassle for the driver. I hate this inflation but I also wanna make sure the person who gave me competent service that I would realistically mark as three stars - not bad, not great, job done exactly as specified and I'm perfectly happy with that - is going to get five. (hassle varies: offered fewer/worse-paying jobs is…

When I moved to California for a while I once made the mistake of describing my food at a restaurant with "fine, thanks" when the server asked how it was. Apparently this translates very differently in the culture of the Bay Area where it means something like "I am very upset" whereas in Boston I think this roughly would be read as "I am satisfied, but don't really feel like chatting."

"Good" is a California "fine", and "fine" is a California "pox be upon you".

Re: Almost 40% of U.S. Consumers Trust Online Reviews Less Than They Did 5 Years Ago

#100

I invite people to checkout BestBuy's online shop. Just about every single item has a rating from 4.0 to 4.8 out of 5. I have yet to see a single listing under 4 stars. There are of course, unrated items, but can you honestly believe that virutally every product they carry is nearly perfect? Who actually writes a 5 star review for a no-name brand of tape and cable ties? When everything is perfect, nothing is, and I d…

This is a problem with nearly every online rating place. 4.0 means TOTAL GARBAGE and 5.0 means it didn't burn by house down. Totally useless.
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