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Re: Gab has been hacked and 70GB of data leaked

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Post by Karawebnetwork » Tue, Mar 02, 2021, 6:50 PM UTC

folknor wrote: post #695

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"Tranny" is certainly a transphobic slur.

I think you mean "is certainly a slur." It's not "transphobic" - the word "tranny" is not irrationally afraid of transgendered people. :-D

"-phobic: having an intolerance or aversion for"

It is a slur that carry the transphobic intent of the writer.

In the same way that ethnic slurs are not themselves ethnic and religious slurs are not themselves religious but convey pejorative, derogatory and insulting messages towards the targeted populations.

Re: Gab has been hacked and 70GB of data leaked

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Post by throw_away892 » Tue, Mar 02, 2021, 6:54 PM UTC

kodah wrote: post #645

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HN Commandments: pray you don't offend the rain gods. Your karma will be wiped away in a furiously terrible flood.

They're called guidelines not rules or commandments. People violate them all the time and get away with it and I'm pretty sure that's why they're called guidelines. There's one person moderating here and that's dang. I've had plenty of pushback for both the left and the right I've got no shortage of karma.

Kinda new on here but am loving the bare bones feel to the forum. The karma bit in my previous comment was added as a sarcastic aid. I personally don't care much for gaining karma. Thank you for this extra context. Very helpful.

Re: Gab has been hacked and 70GB of data leaked

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Post by 8fGTBjZxBcHq » Tue, Mar 02, 2021, 6:55 PM UTC

thu2111 wrote: post #441

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Serious question: how many people would you estimate identify as Nazis, or hold highly anti-semitic/racist + authoritarian views in America? Hundreds of thousands? A million?

Probably only a few thousand white supremacists in the entire USA: https://slatestarcodex.com/2016/11/16/you-are-still-crying-w...

Yes and one of them wrote that article.

I know people are going to mad about this because tech boys loooove him but google it he's a eugenics supporter and endorses far-right race philosophers.

Re: Gab has been hacked and 70GB of data leaked

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Post by mint2 » Tue, Mar 02, 2021, 6:58 PM UTC

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Touched a nerve, didn't it? You might be surprised at how fast this kind of thing can turn around.

Recommended reading: https://www.amazon.com/True-Believer-Thoughts-Movements-Pere... Edit: more recommended reading: http://www.paulgraham.com/say.html http://www.paulgraham.com/conformism.html

I’m not sure how you’re interpreting these, but if you are against businesses deplatforming those who express neonazi, and white nationalist propaganda I don’t think Paul Graham’s message supports you.

I doubt Paul graham equates neonazi propaganda with his examples of past situations where you could believe something that was later thought of as very wrong: “ how can you be sure you wouldn't also have believed everything you were supposed to if you had grown up among the plantation owners of the pre-Civil War South, or in Germany in the 1930s”

Are you saying that in 30 years that society will collectively think neonazi beliefs are correct and thus we were crazy to ostracize them? And you are saying that is why we should stop censoring them? Because in a future state we might live in a dystopia we should stop censoring the people trying to create the dystopia? And also that censoring neonazis is akin to those example like being anti slavery in the antebellum south? Is this your take away? Those arguments sound rather farcical and Paul himself actually explains why that is.

Paul says this: “Of course, we're not just looking for things we can't say. We're looking for things we can't say that are true, or at least have enough chance of being true that the question should remain open.“

There is no doubt about neonazi propaganda. Whether or not it is true is not an open question. White supremacist propaganda maybe being right is not an open question.

Re: Gab has been hacked and 70GB of data leaked

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Post by Schiendelman » Tue, Mar 02, 2021, 7:05 PM UTC

ttt0 wrote: post #749

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I would NOT expect someone to talk about it publicly. That's why CPAC would hedge and not openly deny they used a Nazi symbol. This is how a group that knows they need to hide communicate with one another.

You know what? You convinced me, you're right. All those Jewish people that are involved in the CPAC are totally followers of Hitler's ideology. You're clearly a very smart and intelligent person, so I don't need to care if you will make yourself look like a fool, just like I don't need to care about this joke of a conference that called itself "America Uncancelled" and then proceeded to cancel people. Please kill al…

Please don't use straw men on HN. I'm not claiming that, and this isn't a flamewar.

Re: Gab has been hacked and 70GB of data leaked

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Post by x86_64Ubuntu » Tue, Mar 02, 2021, 7:06 PM UTC

dfgjklj4 wrote: post #716

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Um, no one would ever label Republicans "anti-authoritarian". When your ideology extends from rules concerning which water fountain you can drink from, it's hard to shake the authoritarian label.

>...no one would ever label Republicans "anti-authoritarian"... A strange charge of the "limited-government" party. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Political_positions_of_the_Rep... >...your ideology extends from rules concerning which water fountain you can drink from... The ex-Confederate, Democrat, southern states had segregated water fountains. On the other hand, here's Wikipedia's explanation of where Republican i…

The origins of the GOP as an entity have nothing to do with the ideology they espouse today. It was in the wake of the Civil Rights Act that the GOP decided to appeal to white Americans disaffected by the act and make them the centerpiece of their party.

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Post by bitdizzy » Tue, Mar 02, 2021, 7:07 PM UTC

pid_0 wrote: post #735

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All words are made up and no one is going to fine you or jail you for being a jerk.

You aren't a jerk if you refuse to call someone a made up pronoun. If a she wants to be called a he, fine. If you want to be a benegender xyzbbq xe/xir, no.

All pronouns are made up.

Re: Gab has been hacked and 70GB of data leaked

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Post by x86_64Ubuntu » Tue, Mar 02, 2021, 7:08 PM UTC

mensetmanusman wrote: post #712

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Um, no one would ever label Republicans "anti-authoritarian". When your ideology extends from rules concerning which water fountain you can drink from, it's hard to shake the authoritarian label.

Depends on the definitions. How would you describe a militia that distrust the authority of the government? Is that antiauthoritarian?

No. Because in the US we've had such militias/paramilitaries historically, and they largely sought to defend and restore the authoritarian hierarchies of society.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/White_League

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Red_Shirts_(United_States)

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Post by nailer » Tue, Mar 02, 2021, 7:08 PM UTC

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> They go on various platforms, and say whatever they want until people get mad and private companies make a money-based decision to ban them. The far right is general taken to mean ultra nationalists that attack minority groups. Every major social network has hate speech in their terms of service, and very few people complaining about censorship are complaining about enforcement of rules against actual hate speech.

> very few people complaining about censorship are complaining about enforcement of rules against actual hate speech. Citation needed. But honestly, it doesn't matter because it doesn't change the fact that this is the libertarian ideal situation. The government is not mandating anything. All "cancel culture" is created from private individuals making their own private decisions, and that includes corporations bannin…

> Citation needed.

Likewise. Can you name a single high profile twitter ban that was due to promotion of white supremacy, sexism, or similar?

> But honestly, it doesn't matter because it doesn't change the fact that this is the libertarian ideal situation.

Monopolies are not free markets.

Re: Gab has been hacked and 70GB of data leaked

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Post by tim333 » Tue, Mar 02, 2021, 7:46 PM UTC

cmiles74 wrote: post #542

Was this really the result of a SQL injection attack? I can't find any details on how data was exfiltrated from the site. With all of the tools available today I would have thought this kind of attack would be pretty uncommon.

Apparently their CTO introduced an SQL vulnerability in Feb, then patched https://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2021/03/rookie-coding-mistak...

Easy to make mistakes I guess. Little Bobby Tables strikes again.