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Giving Ada a Chance

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Re: Giving Ada a Chance

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Post by Jtsummers »

protomyth wrote: post #19

I tend to like Ada, but it is a tiring language to read with the all caps. Also, it 'feels' like it has a gatekeeper group and really doesn't come up in any mobile conversation. I still believe someone will do something akin to a syntax substitution and come up with a well liked language. Also, modern Fortran is not that bad of a language much like the modern parts of C++.

The community is definitely not helping, or has not helped. It seems to be improving but I've seen a lot of negative responses to novices that read like some of the things I saw in the 00s when trying to get into Common Lisp. Some individuals are willing to push past this, for others it's a deal breaker.

The community is becoming more open (AdaCore has been very helpful here), I think, but you still have a fair amount of vocal gatekeepers that are going to continue to keep people out (deliberately or not).

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Post by Tostino »

the_only_law wrote: post #11

I love Ada, unfortunately it’s real world use seems to be relegated to old legacy code. I’d like to use it a little more on the side, but I also need to keep my priorities focused on realism, which sadly means ignoring Ada and learning something like C++ which seems unapproachable from any angle. Ada also seems to have a weirdly negative rep in many circles it seems. I recall looking around for an Ada compiler for a…

I've never programmed Ada, but I've read pl/(pg)sql are based off it, and those have pretty wide use in their niche. So its principals may live on for quite some time in those other languages.

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Post by ivan888 »

eplanit wrote: post #22

A nitpick, but why is Ada in all caps in the title? It isn't in the article, nor is the name an acronym.

There's no real reason for it to annoy me so much, but I was just thinking about how I can't stand when people seemingly randomly capitalize words relating to technology without the intention of drawing emphasis to them: GIT, NODE, JIRA, JAVA... why??

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Post by cmrdporcupine »

protomyth wrote: post #15
linuxlizard wrote: post #5

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I enjoyed Fortran/FORTRAN. Is a nice succinct language. "Lovecraftian hieroglyphics of Fortran" <-- the author never programmed in Perl, I presume.

"Lovecraftian hieroglyphics of Fortran" The author might want to stay away from MUMPS for sanity's sake.

My wife used to work as a webdev at a shop that made its bread and butter contracting out some devs to do M/MUMPS development for a bank. Truly horrifying. The language/DB, but also that this thing was involved in handling people's money.

Re: Giving Ada a Chance

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Post by nerdponx »

ivan888 wrote: post #27
eplanit wrote: post #22

A nitpick, but why is Ada in all caps in the title? It isn't in the article, nor is the name an acronym.

There's no real reason for it to annoy me so much, but I was just thinking about how I can't stand when people seemingly randomly capitalize words relating to technology without the intention of drawing emphasis to them: GIT, NODE, JIRA, JAVA... why??

I think people sometimes like to imagine that these things are acronyms even though they aren't.
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