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National Security Commission on Artificial Intelligence's Final Report

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Re: National Security Commission on Artificial Intelligence's Final Report

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Post by tolbish »

consumer451 wrote: post #68
Dirlewanger wrote: post #65

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I mean, America being the world police is a meme, but also has some truth to it...

> but also has some truth to it... That is one heck of an understatement.[0] The global economic benefit of the stability brought by the US military being top-dog is vast, and appears to benefit many countries including China. There are plenty of valid criticisms of Pax Americana, but the global economic benefit, not so much imho. [0] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pax_Americana

The existence of the US hegemony is no secret. The only debate surrounds its longevity. The accepted tipping point is when its massive salaries start to even out with the rest of the world, with COVID-19 acting as a catalyst.

Re: National Security Commission on Artificial Intelligence's Final Report

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Post by dawg- »

account57456 wrote: post #16

Off topic - if I wanted to write a report like that with those cool templates and graphics - what did they use ? I don’t think google docs can do that :)

You can make some pretty attractive layouts with Adobe InDesign. Although I could never imagine managing an 800 page report like this in InDesign

Re: National Security Commission on Artificial Intelligence's Final Report

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Post by engineer_22 »

tsimionescu wrote: post #31
laurent92 wrote: post #15

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> I believe Europe is in the same boat You think? While UK was busy banning Huawei for spycraft, Macron was signing a partnership to install Huawei factories in France. I guess “when you can’t beat spies, invite them to your own territory and pay them”, or something like that, I don’t know I’m not a politician.

> Macron was signing a partnership to install Huawei factories in France. So he is doing exactly what China did - Making sure production is happening in his country, regardless of who nominally owns the factory. A step in the right direction.

The Germans are doing the right thing by spending money to create domestic competitors for 5G manufacturing

Re: National Security Commission on Artificial Intelligence's Final Report

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Post by thoughtstheseus »

adamcstephens wrote: post #57
lifeisstillgood wrote: post #35

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>>> Instead of US companies having to buy goods from foreign companies, they can just buy the factories and manufacture their own goods with foreign labor. Instead of a free international market for goods, this created a free international market for labor, and a global distributed planned economy I have never thought of the analysis like that. Things like Ricardos law assume countries are independent agents intermed…

Offshoring was almost always about labor. Wall Street wanted higher returns, so the jobs went to cheaper labor pools.

This has also exacerbated the wealth gap. Wealth flows to capital, not labor. When you open your labor pool to hyper competition (global) wages go down for the same labor supply. We need to make our society more people centric.

Re: National Security Commission on Artificial Intelligence's Final Report

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Post by xxpor »

engineer_22 wrote: post #70
sneak wrote: post #55

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Being involved in conflicts where hundreds or thousands die is mostly preferable to being involved in wars where tens or hundreds of thousands die. Overall violent death is down on planet Earth drastically over time.

Food for thought: The Wars in the Congo are a counter example. 2nd Congo War is thought to have caused 5.4 million deaths and officially ended in 2003, just 18 years ago. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Second_Congo_War

Arguably that's the exception that proves the rule. Note how none of the great powers were really that involved (outside of the US providing "advisors").

Re: National Security Commission on Artificial Intelligence's Final Report

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Post by AnimalMuppet »

d110af5ccf wrote: post #23
account57456 wrote: post #16

Off topic - if I wanted to write a report like that with those cool templates and graphics - what did they use ? I don’t think google docs can do that :)

From experience, Microsoft Office (Word plus PowerPoint for diagrams) is capable of doing approximately all of what you see there. I'm not sure what the current state of LibreOffice is when it comes to advanced typesetting, but I expect it could easily do everything in that report. LaTeX is in a class of it's own, practically the space shuttle compared to a Cessna. Unfortunately, the learning curve is a seemingly end…

Don't use bare LaTeX. Use Lyx or another frontend for it. Much more like Office, though it works a bit different - Lyx is not WYSIWYG, it's more "what you ask for is what you get", which takes a little bit of getting used to. Still, it's the space shuttle without all those years of astronaut training.

Re: National Security Commission on Artificial Intelligence's Final Report

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Post by xxpor »

tolbish wrote: post #71
consumer451 wrote: post #68

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> but also has some truth to it... That is one heck of an understatement.[0] The global economic benefit of the stability brought by the US military being top-dog is vast, and appears to benefit many countries including China. There are plenty of valid criticisms of Pax Americana, but the global economic benefit, not so much imho. [0] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pax_Americana

The existence of the US hegemony is no secret. The only debate surrounds its longevity. The accepted tipping point is when its massive salaries start to even out with the rest of the world, with COVID-19 acting as a catalyst.

Why would US salaries start to even out with the rest of the world? On a per capita basis, our GDP is still massively higher than every other large country.

Re: National Security Commission on Artificial Intelligence's Final Report

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Post by whatshisface »

AnimalMuppet wrote: post #76
d110af5ccf wrote: post #23

Earlier quoted context omitted.

From experience, Microsoft Office (Word plus PowerPoint for diagrams) is capable of doing approximately all of what you see there. I'm not sure what the current state of LibreOffice is when it comes to advanced typesetting, but I expect it could easily do everything in that report. LaTeX is in a class of it's own, practically the space shuttle compared to a Cessna. Unfortunately, the learning curve is a seemingly end…

Don't use bare LaTeX. Use Lyx or another frontend for it. Much more like Office, though it works a bit different - Lyx is not WYSIWYG, it's more "what you ask for is what you get", which takes a little bit of getting used to. Still, it's the space shuttle without all those years of astronaut training.

LaTeX frontends tend to be slow, because LaTeX is not designed for realtime recompilation or layout. I prefer editors with quick but not realtime updating, where I can write the code and see the document change.

Re: National Security Commission on Artificial Intelligence's Final Report

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Post by webmaven »

xxpor wrote: post #77
tolbish wrote: post #71

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The existence of the US hegemony is no secret. The only debate surrounds its longevity. The accepted tipping point is when its massive salaries start to even out with the rest of the world, with COVID-19 acting as a catalyst.

Why would US salaries start to even out with the rest of the world? On a per capita basis, our GDP is still massively higher than every other large country.

> Why would US salaries start to even out with the rest of the world? On a per capita basis, our GDP is still massively higher than every other large country.

The hypothesis is that if most high compensation workers are remote, it opens up those labor markets to more competition from lower cost regions.

IOW, as Covid-19 forces organizations to become remote-first, they perforce also become more outsourcing-friendly, or at least outsourcing-capable.

Re: National Security Commission on Artificial Intelligence's Final Report

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Post by 1e-9 »

d110af5ccf wrote: post #2

At 756 pages, this looks to be longer than many textbooks. > Microelectronics power all AI, and the United States no longer manufactures the world’s most sophisticated chips. We do not want to overstate the precariousness of our position, but given that the vast majority of cutting-edge chips are produced at a single plant separated by just 110 miles of water from our principal strategic competitor, we must reevaluat…

> the vast majority of cutting-edge chips are produced at a single plant separated by just 110 miles of water from our principal strategic competitor

...and located in a seismically active zone that experienced 97 major earthquakes over the last 100 years.

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