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Re: Gab has been hacked and 70GB of data leaked

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Except /r/conservative never claimed to be unbiased. After people started brigading and posting threats (examples are occasionally shown by moderators) they had to tighten up their moderation. In contrast, /r/politics claims to be about general politics but most content to the right of AOC/Bernie gets downvoted or deleted.

> most content to the right of AOC/Bernie gets downvoted or deleted As Reddit has a user base that comes from the US less than 50%, this might have to do with the fact that the Overton window shifted so far to the right there that the opinions of AOC or Bernie would count as center-right pretty much everywhere else in the western world, with the Republicans being off the charts lunatic extremist right.

I don't know of any European country that would consider AOC or Bernie center right and not populist (class clown) left.

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The idea of public accommodation is ultimately based on the notion that commercial appeals (such as a store window and an open door) constitute an 'invitation to treat' (do business) and that these should not be withheld from anyone on the basis of their unalterable personal characteristics.

> these should not be withheld from anyone on the basis of their unalterable personal characteristics Where does this boundary lie? Is political party unalterable? Ideology? Religion?

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I spent a number of years living in America in the past, and made friends with people across the political spectrum there. And what has always stood out to me is how much hatred and animosity the American right and left have for each other. Talk with someone over beers long enough and they really open up about it, probably because I'm an outsider. As far as political orientation goes, by worldwide standards America a…

> This is not how politics work in the rest of the world.

Actually, it is. It's just in places that you probably don't want to live in:

> Donald Trump’s Republican party has become more illiberal and retreated from upholding democratic norms in recent years, a study has found, with its rhetoric shifting closer that of authoritarian parties ruling in Turkey, Hungary, Poland and India.

> The research by Sweden-based V-Dem Institute highlights what it calls a “global trend” where “the median governing party in democracies has become more illiberal in recent decades”.

* https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/us-electio...

* PDF: https://www.v-dem.net/media/filer_public/b6/55/b6553f85-5c5d...

By 2014 it was the GOP that had become more-right and the median with the Democrats hadn't change much from preceding decades:

* https://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2014/06/yes-pol...

However since then it appears that Democrats have become more-left.

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I'm seeing many "dead comments" as a result of senseless downvoting in this thread... people are maintaining their bubble

I think you're wrong. Your maintaining your bubble by not going through your ex-girlfriends trash can everyday.

The community and moderation on this site are actually pretty good, don't demean people who have different ideas about what makes a good dialogue as being in a bubble.

If the whole community is in a bubble, downvoted people are even more in a bubble. They are the ones out of sync with the greater picture.

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I spent a number of years living in America in the past, and made friends with people across the political spectrum there. And what has always stood out to me is how much hatred and animosity the American right and left have for each other. Talk with someone over beers long enough and they really open up about it, probably because I'm an outsider. As far as political orientation goes, by worldwide standards America a…

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Isn't it beautiful how the American and western society's rips itself apart? Man vs Women, Woman vs Trans, Gay vs Lesbians, White vs Black..oh sorry i mean People of no Color vs People of Color, Democrats vs Republicans and so on...zero consensus on each side what our society should be. It's like the KGB wins the cold war after all...with a small delay. Yuri Bezmenov: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bX3EZCVj2XA https…

Zero conses (consensus?)? Yes there is, it's "don't be a dick", which I'm sure everyone can agree on.

Please don't use such sexist slurs.

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This increase of extreme assault on free-speech platforms should be worrying to everyone. Not too long ago, we were hailing the "internet" as a free fair space. Now it is a free fair space ... for everyone but some kind of people. I'm for free speech but this specific kind of targeted attacks is getting out of hand.

The free speech of facsists shouldnt be protected, Im glad there are hackers doing the right thing

We should be standing up for the human rights of everyone.

It's a dangerous game to say "everyone except x group should have human rights".

I'm curious why this isn't common knowledge by now.

Do people no longer believe in or care for the rule of law?

Re: Gab has been hacked and 70GB of data leaked

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I spent a number of years living in America in the past, and made friends with people across the political spectrum there. And what has always stood out to me is how much hatred and animosity the American right and left have for each other. Talk with someone over beers long enough and they really open up about it, probably because I'm an outsider. As far as political orientation goes, by worldwide standards America a…

Politics are the same everywhere. There's always an enemy and they're always dehumanized. It's always about empowering yourself and your group at the expense of everyone else.

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> Adverse selection. If your differenciating feature is "you can say what you want without getting banned", your userbase is going to tend towards people who get banned on other platforms. In todays climate, that is mostly the far right. And in Hong Kong, it's anti-CCP protestors. In Iran, it is opponents of the theocracy. We can play this game all day. Tech's obsession with hating on Gab/Parler is based upon on the…

> Tech's obsession with hating on Gab/Parler is based upon on the identity of the people in them, not on whether offensive or not-sanctioned speech should be allowed in general. Because it’s often one and the same: the “identity” of the people on them are the ones spreading hate speech and disinformation. You don’t need to sugar coat it as “not-sanctioned speech”, nobody is banning anyone for saying “hey I support Do…

People have suggested re-education camps or other "deprogramming" for Trump voters, including elected Democratic representatives.

And yeah, it is often one and the same. Don't remember who it was, but someone said that the problem with free speech is that you'll spend most of your time defending scoundrels.

As far as hate speech goes, people literally lecture that people who happen to be born like me are "born into not being human", say the lives of people like me don't matter. We are told we should not speak and yet that our silence is violence. Trainings for "diversity" across a wide range of institutions have started segregating along racial lines, and the list goes on. During the Grievance Studies hoax, for example, one of their papers was sent back because it was too sympathetic and not sociopathic enough. Said paper advocated making white students sit on the floor and putting them in chains as a learning experience.

Yet open racism is fine, because the target ethnic group and sexual orientation are acceptable to the activist class.

Likewise, people who get kicked out for "transphobia" will often not be people who hate transpeople in any proper sense, but have policy disagreements where there are no win-win solutions. Yet anything but being completely on board with the activist class's 100% no limits pro-trans policy agenda is "phobia". The claim holds up as well as wet paper.

How about gender affirming treatment for kids who cannot physically know what sexuality properly is because they haven't been through puberty? Someone's a bit off their gender role? Tomboy, nah, they're a boy, time to stuff them full of hormones. Concerns that this just might be insane are again, labeled hate.

Said cultists insist on mantras of trans(wo-)men are (wo-)men in an explicit denial of biology that the best of our medicine can't alter: We just craft a facade that eases dysphoria to care for our fellow human beings. As Buck Angel put it: "I use testosterone to masculinize myself so I feel more like me." He's routinely called a transphobe.

This is basically the biology equivalent of flat eartherism or young earth creationism, but not subscribing to the creed is stamped hate speech. The mantra wouldn't even be necessary if its claim was actually true. It's even worse than flat eartherism, since a human can't at a glance confirm that the Earth is indeed round, but TWAW/TMAM asks us to baldly deny the input of our eyes in everyday life.

Hate and disinformation do not at all come "mostly from one side of the political spectrum" - science denial in the "party of science" is alive and well.

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