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Gab has been hacked and 70GB of data leaked

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Re: Gab has been hacked and 70GB of data leaked

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Post by cies »

tor11 wrote: post #377
cies wrote: post #273

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> you can say anything that is not directly illegal in the US [or frowned upon by what we* believe God would frown upon] without fear of being banned or other moderation it's not censorship when you like it! *) we = right leaning americans

this is almost correct. probably correct that they censor based on conservative opinions. not correct that right leaning americans are conservative. all conservatives are right leaning tho. not the other way around.

I'm not even sure what right leaning or conservative means these days.

The "right" was merely copied from an ancestor post.

Re: Gab has been hacked and 70GB of data leaked

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Post by krageon »

mikepost001 wrote: post #17
cmeacham98 wrote: post #4

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Parler is basically a direct clone of twitter's basic features. They use different names but have features similar to that of Twitter's tweet/like/retweet. Gab's current iteration is a mastodon fork (although iirc they don't participate in the fediverse via activitypub). Gab is similar to Twitter like Parler but is less of a direct clone, offering other features Twitter doesn't have. Gab has been along for longer and…

"you can say anything that is not directly illegal in the US without fear of being banned or other mode“ For a non-American, could you explain how this is far right? Sounds pretty liberal.

> how this is far right

Generally the argumentation presented is a dogwhistle for fringe elements (nazis, other unpleasant people, etc). Sadly they are currently dominated by far-right ideologies (and ofc the inevitable sexual predators).

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Post by dragonwriter »

kstenerud wrote: post #381

I spent a number of years living in America in the past, and made friends with people across the political spectrum there. And what has always stood out to me is how much hatred and animosity the American right and left have for each other. Talk with someone over beers long enough and they really open up about it, probably because I'm an outsider. As far as political orientation goes, by worldwide standards America a…

> This is not how politics work in the rest of the world.

Weighted by population, and including the places where that attitude has been taken to it's logical extreme by the dominant faction actually suppressing it's opposition, it absolutely is how politics works in the rest of the world.

It's not how politics works in healthy, multiparty democracies, but those are, globally, rather more the exception than the rule.

Re: Gab has been hacked and 70GB of data leaked

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Post by krageon »

khmmr wrote: post #360
_r0fz wrote: post #271

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> Tech's obsession with hating on Gab/Parler is based upon on the identity of the people in them Correct. We hate nazis.

As a European from a country with actual experience with various totalitarian regimes, based on current actions in US like restricting free speech, banning books, enforcing ideology through propaganda and forced "reeducation" courses for those whose beliefs are considered "wrong", "positive" discrimination based on racial features etc, I'm more inclined to think that you are not hating the nazis, you are the nazis. A…

You're putting words in their mouth and then arguing with those words. Seeing as you're responding to a single sentence, this is an impressive amount of extrapolation.

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Post by rndgermandude »

arethuza wrote: post #390
kstenerud wrote: post #381

I spent a number of years living in America in the past, and made friends with people across the political spectrum there. And what has always stood out to me is how much hatred and animosity the American right and left have for each other. Talk with someone over beers long enough and they really open up about it, probably because I'm an outsider. As far as political orientation goes, by worldwide standards America a…

"This is not how politics work in the rest of the world." A lot of the debate around Brexit in the UK worked exactly that way - on both sides.

From my outside observer perspective of both US and UK politics the level of hatred and animosity in the US appears orders of magnitude higher.

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Post by tor11 »

feralimal wrote: post #371
zokula wrote: post #277

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I bet you think North Korea is a Democratic Republic as well?

Democrats are democratic in the US, of course. Oh, I see. Names don't matter if they are inconvenient.... Nazis (a literal shortening of Nationalsozialismus) - no they weren't the left.. 'cos Hitler, and Hitler bad. Freedom is speech, but not 'hate speech'. (Who defines 'hate speech'?) What is hate speech except for a reason to stop people speaking. These are ideological positions couched as morality. And everyone ne…

> Democrats are democratic in the US, of course.

of course.

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Post by shadowgovt »

abernard1 wrote: post #297
orf wrote: post #292

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> Tech's obsession with hating on Gab/Parler is based upon on the identity of the people in them, not on whether offensive or not-sanctioned speech should be allowed in general. Because it’s often one and the same: the “identity” of the people on them are the ones spreading hate speech and disinformation. You don’t need to sugar coat it as “not-sanctioned speech”, nobody is banning anyone for saying “hey I support Do…

> nobody is banning anyone for saying “hey I support Donald trump!’ If that person says they don't believe the results of the election they are. If that person says that they don't believe the vaccines or lockdowns don't work, they are. Twitter, Facebook, and tech in general have lost this card to play. They've been banning people for things that have nothing to do with racism and everything to do with them being not…

The political spectrum of tech is pretty centrist. Leaning fiscal-conservative, even.

It's the right wing of American politics that has swung so far to the right of where it used to be that it's made tech look Democratic in contrast. If tech employees are supporting Democrats, it's because the alternative has come to look insane.

Re: Gab has been hacked and 70GB of data leaked

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Post by Mauricebranagh »

feralimal wrote: post #183
dagmx wrote: post #155

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How many left wing dictators have there been?

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Not really if you read Kershaw's two vol bio early on the NAZI party did have some "socialist policies" but Hitler changed the policy and threw those out in the late 20's.

Its also one of the reasons that the SA was purged.

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