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This would be insane for anyone outside of HN. $10 a month for a 5 person chat? They know everyone can get this free elsewhere for decades now? A 5 person Signal group would even have higher security.
Why is it higher security?
Why home vs nickle? Nickle seems to be the same with the addition of your own DNS for the same price.
This genuinely makes no sense on Element's part. The exact same features are listed for the same price, on the feature comparison page - https://element.io/pricing - except Nickel has one extra. Why would anyone choose to have one less feature, all-else being apparently equal? Either the comparison page is wrong/missing something, or...?
If it's just an option that can be turned on or off in a control panel of sorts, the plans might just be different pre-provisioning configurations. For many people, especially the non-tech users, custom DNS isn't really something that they want or even should be using.
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I had the same thought, but do your dozen folks use video calls on your instance? Does it work well enough? I'd definitely expect to be able to host a text-only instance for $5, but maybe they also need to provision for more demanding features? I only use Element / Matrix as an IRC replacement for now so I couldn't tell.
AFAIK, Matrix does not support Video chat yet? But the VoIP/audio chat is using WebRTC, so Matrix is only the signalling server and the audio is p2p between the participants. As such the strain on the hosting server should be minimal
> You can just enjoy the fact you know you chose someone you trust (us!) with your data. Isn't the point of decentralization that I don't have to choose some centralized party to trust?
This seems like a great move forward for Element, looks like this is angling to replace the New Vector offering they had a while back? The pricing is certainly odd, though. For 5 bucks a month I run my own server with almost a dozen folks on it, which requires basically zero maintenance (I can count the number of times I've had to go in and restart it over the past two years on one hand). Double that for a limit of 5…
Yeah, no. Blast from the past:
https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=19642554
This is the entity/company who decided to revoke clients keys because not because the users messed up but because they messed up and therefore destroying access to the users messages and defended that as the approach!
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AFAIK, Matrix does not support Video chat yet? But the VoIP/audio chat is using WebRTC, so Matrix is only the signalling server and the audio is p2p between the participants. As such the strain on the hosting server should be minimal
Even if it's P2P, you still need TURN servers because participants might be behind NAT that are hard to pierce through. This basically means you're proxying the full video traffic between both participants.
The day the element and jitsi projects marry and offer a single $10 plan for secure chat and group video all the commercial providers can pack up... But I fear the day may never come.
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If you (or anyone else reading this) are okay with Patreon, they do have one at https://www.patreon.com/matrixdotorg . If you don't like Patreon for some reason, they are also on Liberapay, PayPal, and accept BTC and ETH. They have some minor benefits and flair, although the page hasn't been updated in awhile, so I don't know how many are still valid.
I was on their Patreon for a while, but had to hop off because of financial fun. Sadly none of the rewards are updated and the flair is no longer given out; at this point it makes sense to just see it as a donation.
This is probably a stab at BeeperHQ, judging by the price.