Hacker News Board Hacker News, browsed like a classic message board
Live data from Hacker News

WSL Hello Sudo: Face Recognition of Windows Hello on Windows Subsystem for Linux

github.com

Post reply on HN
Print view View original

41–50 of 86 posts

Re: WSL Hello Sudo: Face Recognition of Windows Hello on Windows Subsystem for Linux

#41

Post by franga2000 »

oblio wrote: post #36
29athrowaway wrote: post #12

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I hate the Windows desktop (and server). Right now I am using XFCE. Much faster than Windows, lower memory footprint and I got it to look similar to macOS to some extent. Using Windows compared to using XFCE is like pulling a stubborn donkey. No, I don't want to update, I don't want a voice assistant, I don't want absurd UIs, I don't want telemetry, I just want a goddamn menu and desktop icons.

Well, what can I say, good for you :-) >No, I don't want to update Why don't you want to update? You really should. > I don't want a voice assistant It takes less than 5 minutes to disable and hide it. > I don't want absurd UIs How do you define absurd UIs? Do you think 1 billion people using Windows are all absurd? If so, that's highly arrogant of you. > I don't want telemetry It's a bit annoying and philosophically…

> Why don't you want to update? You really should.

Yes, tomorrow evening when I have time, not literally right now in the middle of a 2-day 3D render that my computer has been running for a 24 hours now.

> It takes less than 5 minutes to disable and hide it.

Until an update re-enables it or pops an un-hidable fullscreen popup with misleading questions that tricks you into enabling it again.

> [absurd UIs]

You can't possibly be defending the shitshow that is the Win10 setting menu! Everyone hates it, from techies, developers, gamers, grandmas... I could probably write an essay just about the actual bugs and missing features, not even counting stupid design.

> [telemetry]

See the Cortana reply above

> [resources]

Few people are running For another datapoint, I can no longer play certain games (heavily modded) on Win, because they actually need at least 6GB or RAM and that's enough to crash my 8GB system. On Linux, I can run the game, Spotify and like 3 Firefox tabs on the same machine, and I'm using a DE that notorious for high RAM usage (KDE Plasma).

Re: WSL Hello Sudo: Face Recognition of Windows Hello on Windows Subsystem for Linux

#42

Post by franga2000 »

zeusk wrote: post #21
29athrowaway wrote: post #12

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I hate the Windows desktop (and server). Right now I am using XFCE. Much faster than Windows, lower memory footprint and I got it to look similar to macOS to some extent. Using Windows compared to using XFCE is like pulling a stubborn donkey. No, I don't want to update, I don't want a voice assistant, I don't want absurd UIs, I don't want telemetry, I just want a goddamn menu and desktop icons.

What do you mean I have to use iwconfig to fix my network? No, I just want to connect to a network. I don't want to write scripts for every device to suspend and resume.

I've only had to touch iwconfig once (on a desktop OS) and it was when my network card wasn't even supported on Windows, so it was still a win for Linux. But yes, if something breaks, no shit you have to pull out the command line - it's the same on Windows, only a lot of the time, you can't actually fix it because they don't give you the necessary tools.

As for suspend/resume scripts, I've never had to do that and I use Arch (yes, hahah, but you know what I mean).

Re: WSL Hello Sudo: Face Recognition of Windows Hello on Windows Subsystem for Linux

#43

Post by zeusk »

franga2000 wrote: post #42
zeusk wrote: post #21

Earlier quoted context omitted.

What do you mean I have to use iwconfig to fix my network? No, I just want to connect to a network. I don't want to write scripts for every device to suspend and resume.

I've only had to touch iwconfig once (on a desktop OS) and it was when my network card wasn't even supported on Windows, so it was still a win for Linux. But yes, if something breaks, no shit you have to pull out the command line - it's the same on Windows, only a lot of the time, you can't actually fix it because they don't give you the necessary tools. As for suspend/resume scripts, I've never had to do that and I…

funny you say that, because Arch is what had me learn about those monstrosities (suspend/resume scripts). Granted, it was back around 2011 though so I'm sure things have changed quite a bit since.

Windows has a certification process for most hardware and drivers, things still break but any major or wide breaks are caught quite early. I just have less time to tinker with stuff when random flakiness pops up which happened a lot when I used Arch and Ubuntu.

Re: WSL Hello Sudo: Face Recognition of Windows Hello on Windows Subsystem for Linux

#45

Post by anhner »

jjjeii3 wrote: post #44

To me developing with WSL2 is now even better than on native Linux - works exceptionally well. I use it with VS Code + WSL plugin and Docker for Windows.

How do you deal with performance issues with files not on the linux machine?

Re: WSL Hello Sudo: Face Recognition of Windows Hello on Windows Subsystem for Linux

#46

Post by zeusk »

eneville wrote: post #35
JoBrad wrote: post #19

Earlier quoted context omitted.

So Microsoft’s plan to extend Linux includes getting former employees to do it?

Wouldn't anyone with a pension or shares in a company want it to succeed?

but that's the employees sole intent, and not the "firm".

People really get riled up with some brands, but I think brands are really just people who operate the brand collectively, often with an emphasis on the leadership that gets to guide the sail. Gates and Ballmer are past.

Re: WSL Hello Sudo: Face Recognition of Windows Hello on Windows Subsystem for Linux

#47

Post by oblio »

franga2000 wrote: post #41
oblio wrote: post #36

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Well, what can I say, good for you :-) >No, I don't want to update Why don't you want to update? You really should. > I don't want a voice assistant It takes less than 5 minutes to disable and hide it. > I don't want absurd UIs How do you define absurd UIs? Do you think 1 billion people using Windows are all absurd? If so, that's highly arrogant of you. > I don't want telemetry It's a bit annoying and philosophically…

> Why don't you want to update? You really should. Yes, tomorrow evening when I have time, not literally right now in the middle of a 2-day 3D render that my computer has been running for a 24 hours now. > It takes less than 5 minutes to disable and hide it. Until an update re-enables it or pops an un-hidable fullscreen popup with misleading questions that tricks you into enabling it again. > [absurd UIs] You can't p…

> You can't possibly be defending the shitshow that is the Win10 setting menu!

It's a humongous engineering project and I can see what they're doing. It's a super painful and long transition, but where they've finished the transition, I like it. Very nicely organized, searchable, it makes a lot of sense, it's consistent. It's a great UI, we're just in the middle of the construction site.

Re: WSL Hello Sudo: Face Recognition of Windows Hello on Windows Subsystem for Linux

#48

Post by wongarsu »

franga2000 wrote: post #41
oblio wrote: post #36

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Well, what can I say, good for you :-) >No, I don't want to update Why don't you want to update? You really should. > I don't want a voice assistant It takes less than 5 minutes to disable and hide it. > I don't want absurd UIs How do you define absurd UIs? Do you think 1 billion people using Windows are all absurd? If so, that's highly arrogant of you. > I don't want telemetry It's a bit annoying and philosophically…

> Why don't you want to update? You really should. Yes, tomorrow evening when I have time, not literally right now in the middle of a 2-day 3D render that my computer has been running for a 24 hours now. > It takes less than 5 minutes to disable and hide it. Until an update re-enables it or pops an un-hidable fullscreen popup with misleading questions that tricks you into enabling it again. > [absurd UIs] You can't p…

Windows Update is quite accommodating if you configure it a bit in the Pro version. The Home version of Windows is a pain all around, the upgrade to Pro is definitely worth it (especially if you are actually doing serious work)

Re: WSL Hello Sudo: Face Recognition of Windows Hello on Windows Subsystem for Linux

#49

Post by franga2000 »

oblio wrote: post #47
franga2000 wrote: post #41

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> Why don't you want to update? You really should. Yes, tomorrow evening when I have time, not literally right now in the middle of a 2-day 3D render that my computer has been running for a 24 hours now. > It takes less than 5 minutes to disable and hide it. Until an update re-enables it or pops an un-hidable fullscreen popup with misleading questions that tricks you into enabling it again. > [absurd UIs] You can't p…

> You can't possibly be defending the shitshow that is the Win10 setting menu! It's a humongous engineering project and I can see what they're doing. It's a super painful and long transition, but where they've finished the transition, I like it. Very nicely organized, searchable, it makes a lot of sense, it's consistent. It's a great UI, we're just in the middle of the construction site.

Yes, I completely agree. But you wouldn't kick a bunch of people out of their apartments and force them to live in the construction site for 3 years because "once it's done, it'll be way nicer than where they were living".

Re: WSL Hello Sudo: Face Recognition of Windows Hello on Windows Subsystem for Linux

#50

Post by arcatek »

anhner wrote: post #45
jjjeii3 wrote: post #44

To me developing with WSL2 is now even better than on native Linux - works exceptionally well. I use it with VS Code + WSL plugin and Docker for Windows.

How do you deal with performance issues with files not on the linux machine?

I had this problem at first (I kept my source codes in a separate drive to be able to edit them from my Windows IDE), but nowadays I just keep all my code files in WSL and I don't notice the problem at all anymore. VSCode makes interacting with the box completely transparent.
Post reply on HN