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Element Matrix Services Announces Element Home

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Re: Element Matrix Services Announces Element Home

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Good stuff! Now we just need to get the cost down. I got email hosting for free with my domain, that's the price point I would like for Matrix, too.

May I ask which registrar it is? The ones I know only offer email forwarding for free, not a full-fledged email account.

Re: Element Matrix Services Announces Element Home

#22

This seems like a great move forward for Element, looks like this is angling to replace the New Vector offering they had a while back? The pricing is certainly odd, though. For 5 bucks a month I run my own server with almost a dozen folks on it, which requires basically zero maintenance (I can count the number of times I've had to go in and restart it over the past two years on one hand). Double that for a limit of 5…

I also think the explanation could use a bit of work. If I have more than 5 users, do I need to switch to Nickel? Get another Home plan?

Re: Element Matrix Services Announces Element Home

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post #21
post #18

Good stuff! Now we just need to get the cost down. I got email hosting for free with my domain, that's the price point I would like for Matrix, too.

May I ask which registrar it is? The ones I know only offer email forwarding for free, not a full-fledged email account.

Not OP, but I'm getting the same from Gandi [0].

[0] https://gandi.net/

Re: Element Matrix Services Announces Element Home

#25

"Dedicated server" mentioned 4 times in that article. In hosting world, dedicated server means real physical server. I wonder if that's just marketing speak and in reality it's virtual server or they really install a separate server for every customer.

server as in the server daemon, not server as in the physical server.

Re: Element Matrix Services Announces Element Home

#26

"Dedicated server" mentioned 4 times in that article. In hosting world, dedicated server means real physical server. I wonder if that's just marketing speak and in reality it's virtual server or they really install a separate server for every customer.

they could have used "personal server" instead ?

Re: Element Matrix Services Announces Element Home

#27
I believe they are asking twice as much as they should be. Hear me out.

At $1/month/user, they would make $12/user/year. I would say most people have extended ~10-20 family members they communicate with, at $20 -$40/month on the lowest priced plan, that would be a fair expenditure that would fall on one family member, because trying to get everyone to chip in if usually unrealistic. Now outside of the USA it begins to get really expensive.

If they could offer it at $1/month, they would have significantly greater uptake. As for the bandwidth and hosting costs, are they not paying for that anyway through the default Matrix server?

I get they want to make money from businesses, but they are pricing out a lot of families who have Facebook-fatige.

Re: Element Matrix Services Announces Element Home

#28

"Dedicated server" mentioned 4 times in that article. In hosting world, dedicated server means real physical server. I wonder if that's just marketing speak and in reality it's virtual server or they really install a separate server for every customer.

server as in the server daemon, not server as in the physical server.

I would phrase that as 'server instance.' Their language like "you’re sharing minimal infrastructure with anyone else" does reinforce the idea they mean physical server.

Maybe "dedicated" and "infrastructure" are being abstracted into meaninglessness as cloud computing matures.

Re: Element Matrix Services Announces Element Home

#29

"Dedicated server" mentioned 4 times in that article. In hosting world, dedicated server means real physical server. I wonder if that's just marketing speak and in reality it's virtual server or they really install a separate server for every customer.

My understanding of it was that it would be a dedicated instance of the matrix server software using your own domain and not the shared matrix server.
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