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Did Oregon Officials Say ‘Showing Work’ in Math Class Is White Supremacism?

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Re: Did Oregon Officials Say ‘Showing Work’ in Math Class Is White Supremacism?

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This seems like a mixture of

A. Relying on geometry and visual metaphors, which seems fantastic from a history-of-mathematics and a visual-working-memory point of view.

B. Encouraging kids to see themselves as mathematicians, which seems healthy.

C. Randomly thinking "kidz these days like tiktok. Put something about that in there." which seems superficial and imposes a lot more work.

Re: Did Oregon Officials Say ‘Showing Work’ in Math Class Is White Supremacism?

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This seems like a mixture of A. Relying on geometry and visual metaphors, which seems fantastic from a history-of-mathematics and a visual-working-memory point of view. B. Encouraging kids to see themselves as mathematicians, which seems healthy. C. Randomly thinking "kidz these days like tiktok. Put something about that in there." which seems superficial and imposes a lot more work.

The thing is that visual metaphors don't scale. And when the problem gets too complicated for you to visualize it accurately, if you can't do the chain-of-steps-on-paper approach, you're stuck.

So, this approach may be fine, to get kids interested in mathematics and give them some intuition about what's going on. But an actual education can't stop there.

Re: Did Oregon Officials Say ‘Showing Work’ in Math Class Is White Supremacism?

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Can anyone explain to me how the officials are not being racist as hell here? How could "worship of the written word" be a disadvantage for non-whites unless they are inherently less literate?

Or are they using some kind of academic definitions that don't actually have to do anything with people's skin colors? Their mention of "patriarchy" makes me think so since black men do exist.

Re: Did Oregon Officials Say ‘Showing Work’ in Math Class Is White Supremacism?

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The point not touched on is that not all answers arrived at in math class are correct, and that showing where someone went off course can be of great use in evaluating the student's understanding and in helping him or her get better at the task.

Re: Did Oregon Officials Say ‘Showing Work’ in Math Class Is White Supremacism?

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post #6

The point not touched on is that not all answers arrived at in math class are correct, and that showing where someone went off course can be of great use in evaluating the student's understanding and in helping him or her get better at the task.

And what does that have to do with people's skin colors?

Re: Did Oregon Officials Say ‘Showing Work’ in Math Class Is White Supremacism?

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I don't know why the ODE said anything at all.

If you're a Mathematician, you can show your work given the form that all Mathematicians have done through the ages. In fact, in grade and high school, you're generally not required to write actual proofs, but just generally show your work. I do not miss having to produce formalized proofs.

The math that is taught at that level is the product, largely, of Sumerian, Babylonian, Egyptian, Chinese, Greek, Indian, and Islamic origin. Greek (and Italian) people, until post-WW2, were often not considered "white enough" by white supremacists.

Math students have to be held to the same standard, or an even higher one, than their predecessors: they must be able to show to the teacher that they have internalized the logic and reason that is taught by whichever branch of Mathematics they're currently learning about.

Re: Did Oregon Officials Say ‘Showing Work’ in Math Class Is White Supremacism?

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Is the person who wrote this high? They conclude that "it was false to frame that recommendation as a mandatory directive from ODE to teachers, or to suggest the department itself said the standard idea of “showing work” is a form of white supremacy". Why would the Oregon state government spend all this money and effort to create this PDF and not have it be a recommendation for their teachers? So that teachers can maybe use it? So that they can watch Ben Sharpiro lose his shit over it?

I'm sick of these mealy-mouthed contrivances that are everywhere today. They simply can't admit that Oregon is 100% in the wrong and that they published racist pedagogy documents.