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I’m still wanting a fish-alike interative shell that improves on the Bourne shell language (and bash extensions). I’m having hopes on Oil shell [0], but it’s still in an early stage so I guess I’ll have to wait for a far future…
[0]: https://oilshell.org
This is buried down in the Completion section but this is a big deal if you’ve upgraded to MacOS Big Sur: completing a command could hang the shell for 10-15 seconds making it nearly unusable. Thanks for fixing this!
Folks make a big deal about everything Fish gives you out of the box, but for someone who already has Zsh well–configured (eg. syntax highlighting, autosuggestions, fzf), can someone sell me on things I might be missing out on from Fish?
Assuming zsh is already doing everything you want the biggest thing you're missing is speed.
I always see these posts, get tempted to use fish instead of bash but then I ask the ubiquity question and end up saying "Not today..."
If you mean for script portability: you can still easily call scripts with bash directly. For scripts that modify the environment, use bass. If you mean that you still have to use bash on other machines: yeah, I feel you there. At least for me, I'm fortunate that if I end up using a machine frequently, I can just install fish and add my config/dot files.
I see a lot of enthusiasm for fish. Can someone point me to some resources that I can check? Not the best comparison but: vim has vimtutor, a couple of good vim games and so on. Is there anything for fish?
Here's the docs if you do want to read about it first: https://fishshell.com/docs/current/
I'd like to use fish regularly, but I feel really attacked by the over-the-top usage of color and unrequested auto-completion. Even a "monochrome" theme I tried was shoveling many different shades of gray into my terminal. It does not seem to honor the NO_COLOR variable either. Is there any way to obtain a default configuration with everything disabled?
It's a good point, but how many of the features are useful without any colors at all? At least the auto-completion would just look like any typed text. Perhaps fish is not for you?
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set -e is not great and is not recommended. http://mywiki.wooledge.org/BashFAQ/105
-e is in the class of things that can be fine to use, but the people least-likely to be prepared to know when it can be are the most likely to expect it to behave better than it does. Sort of a combination finger-trap/cigar cutter for newbies.
I'm surprised that Fish isn't used more for education. I don't know of any distros aimed at new users which have fish as the default. I don't think I've seen any tutorials that use fish to teach shell concepts. It seems like such a missed opportunity, especially at a time when Linux Gaming is on the rise. There's a whole audience that would have the activation energy of getting into shell scripting lowered by being s…
Edit: the point is that I should try fish too. Great user friendly tooling isn't just for beginners.
I see a lot of enthusiasm for fish. Can someone point me to some resources that I can check? Not the best comparison but: vim has vimtutor, a couple of good vim games and so on. Is there anything for fish?
I also enjoyed https://jvns.ca/blog/2017/04/23/the-fish-shell-is-awesome/ which is a nice read though not a tutorial.